[Reader-users] Software Upgrade

James Jolley james.jolley1 at btinternet.com
Thu Jul 5 17:12:13 CDT 2007 

Hi Dave,

I decided that we were done with it because Jim explained that there were 
problems with the initial release. to me, that is fair enough and problems 
like this are to be expected now and again.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade


> Well, my messages were a little harsh, and for that I apologize.  You 
> pushed my buttons, you seemed to go on and on, then all of a sudden you 
> decided we were done with that topic!
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:22 PM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
>>Excuse me,
>>
>>I made my views perfectly clear and as Jim stated that there were problems
>>with the initial release, i'm fine with that! Get off my back and get your
>>facts right before posting!
>>
>>Also, regarding weather i'd complain if there were problems with the
>>release, i'd only do that if the release damaged my unit for some reason
>>wich is unlikely. I may just leave this list entirely if this persists!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>><reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>
>>
>>> You're acting like you aren't going to get it at all, which isn't the
>>> case.  As I said in another message  my guess is that there isn't enough
>>> staff to handle two major conventions and a web update at once.
>>>
>>> If you get the update, have a problem, and ask for help, and don't get
>>> instant response, you will probably whine and complain about that too.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 07:45 AM 7/3/2007, you wrote:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>It's not a question of wining or complaining - it's the concept. Why
>>>>should
>>>>convention attendies come first, it makes absolutely no sense. It 
>>>>today's
>>>>age of the web and access to downloads, it should have been up there if
>>>>not
>>>>before, as it became available to the convention users. your effectively
>>>>saying, if your not part of the convention, tough luck.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>>>To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>><reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:40 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Give me a break.  I paid for mine personally.  I never even considered
>>>>> attending the convention.  How long  will any of us have to wait? 
>>>>> Maybe
>>>>> a
>>>>> month.  I waited considerably longer than that to have access to such 
>>>>> a
>>>>> wonderful piece of technology.  I hardly think I  need to cry about
>>>>> waiting
>>>>> another month  or even another year.
>>>>> Janet
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin at kevinrj.net>
>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not only just what James said, but includes that. I actually 
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> attend conventions, I don't want to use my vacation for those when I
>>>>>> have family and friends spread around I'd rather visit. Many knfb
>>>>>> reader
>>>>>> owners had their reader paid for by DVR andmay never be able to 
>>>>>> attend
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> convention, they are expensive. Not only are international customers
>>>>>> being forced to wait, but also Americans who may not be as 
>>>>>> financially
>>>>>> fortunate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James Jolley wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree to a point, but if the same thing was done over here in
>>>>>>> Britain,
>>>>>>> there would be an upraw. This is were the business moddle kind of
>>>>>>> falls
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>> I think. why should your international market be left out in the 
>>>>>>> cold?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -James-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:40 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for writing what I failed to write.  You are correct. Janet-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:30 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is probably an unpopular view, but I do not agree with this
>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> thinking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We in the U.S. are blessed in many ways.  To say that a business
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> a jump to those who attend a particular event is at best,
>>>>>>>>> short-sighted.
>>>>>>>>> The people at KNFB are not the first, nor  will they be the last 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> something like this.  The object at a tradeshow is to draw people 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> booth.  And this is an incentive to come see them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now they have also created a huge clamour for this product.  And
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the convention and the eventual posting afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Due to a number of things beyond my control, I also was not able 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>>>> this year's dconvention.  So I am waiting as well.  But I do not
>>>>>>>>> blame
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> for introducing it where there are live people and plenty of them.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> convention of NFB and the social gathering of that other thing, 
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>> biggest opportunities for companies selling adaptive devices to
>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> consumers they  are targeting.  And if they choose to offer this 
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> incentive to come see them, then more power to them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress
>>>>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>>>> Shaklee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Joseph LaFauci" <joeleah at iquest.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Reader-Users at Nfbnet. Org" <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:52 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>>>>>> I hope I was clear earlier.  I agree wholeheartedly with all of 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> comments.  I'm sure it is the most difficult for you folks outside
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>>>>> I was also saying that there are also many of us here in the 
>>>>>>>>> states
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same boat.  I think KNFB should have posted the upgrade on the web
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> they left for Atlanta if it was ready.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe there are still people back at KNFB who will post it soon. 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>> I think it will be a good upgrade based on Jim's description.
>>>>>>>>> I am especially enthusiastic about the ability to read different
>>>>>>>>> colored
>>>>>>>>> text on different backgrounds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph LaFauci
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: joeleah at iquest.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.joeleah.com <http://www.joeleah.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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