[Reader-users] Software Upgrade

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Thu Jul 5 16:54:50 CDT 2007 

Well, my messages were a little harsh, and for that I apologize.  You pushed my buttons, you seemed to go on and on, then all of a sudden you decided we were done with that topic!

Dave

At 04:22 PM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
>Excuse me,
>
>I made my views perfectly clear and as Jim stated that there were problems 
>with the initial release, i'm fine with that! Get off my back and get your 
>facts right before posting!
>
>Also, regarding weather i'd complain if there were problems with the 
>release, i'd only do that if the release damaged my unit for some reason 
>wich is unlikely. I may just leave this list entirely if this persists!
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
><reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>
>
>> You're acting like you aren't going to get it at all, which isn't the 
>> case.  As I said in another message  my guess is that there isn't enough 
>> staff to handle two major conventions and a web update at once.
>>
>> If you get the update, have a problem, and ask for help, and don't get 
>> instant response, you will probably whine and complain about that too.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 07:45 AM 7/3/2007, you wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>It's not a question of wining or complaining - it's the concept. Why 
>>>should
>>>convention attendies come first, it makes absolutely no sense. It today's
>>>age of the web and access to downloads, it should have been up there if 
>>>not
>>>before, as it became available to the convention users. your effectively
>>>saying, if your not part of the convention, tough luck.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>>To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>><reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>
>>>
>>>> Give me a break.  I paid for mine personally.  I never even considered
>>>> attending the convention.  How long  will any of us have to wait?  Maybe 
>>>> a
>>>> month.  I waited considerably longer than that to have access to such  a
>>>> wonderful piece of technology.  I hardly think I  need to cry about
>>>> waiting
>>>> another month  or even another year.
>>>> Janet
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin at kevinrj.net>
>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's not only just what James said, but includes that. I actually never
>>>>> attend conventions, I don't want to use my vacation for those when I
>>>>> have family and friends spread around I'd rather visit. Many knfb 
>>>>> reader
>>>>> owners had their reader paid for by DVR andmay never be able to attend 
>>>>> a
>>>>> convention, they are expensive. Not only are international customers
>>>>> being forced to wait, but also Americans who may not be as financially
>>>>> fortunate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> James Jolley wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree to a point, but if the same thing was done over here in 
>>>>>> Britain,
>>>>>> there would be an upraw. This is were the business moddle kind of 
>>>>>> falls
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> I think. why should your international market be left out in the cold?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -James-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for writing what I failed to write.  You are correct. Janet-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:30 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is probably an unpopular view, but I do not agree with this 
>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> thinking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We in the U.S. are blessed in many ways.  To say that a business
>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> a jump to those who attend a particular event is at best,
>>>>>>>> short-sighted.
>>>>>>>> The people at KNFB are not the first, nor  will they be the last to 
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> something like this.  The object at a tradeshow is to draw people to
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> booth.  And this is an incentive to come see them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now they have also created a huge clamour for this product.  And 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the convention and the eventual posting afterwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Due to a number of things beyond my control, I also was not able to
>>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>>> this year's dconvention.  So I am waiting as well.  But I do not 
>>>>>>>> blame
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> for introducing it where there are live people and plenty of them.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> convention of NFB and the social gathering of that other thing, are
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> biggest opportunities for companies selling adaptive devices to 
>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> consumers they  are targeting.  And if they choose to offer this as 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> incentive to come see them, then more power to them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress 
>>>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>>> Shaklee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Joseph LaFauci" <joeleah at iquest.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Reader-Users at Nfbnet. Org" <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:52 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>>>>> I hope I was clear earlier.  I agree wholeheartedly with all of the
>>>>>>>> comments.  I'm sure it is the most difficult for you folks outside 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>>>> I was also saying that there are also many of us here in the states 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same boat.  I think KNFB should have posted the upgrade on the web
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> they left for Atlanta if it was ready.
>>>>>>>> Maybe there are still people back at KNFB who will post it soon.  I
>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>> I think it will be a good upgrade based on Jim's description.
>>>>>>>> I am especially enthusiastic about the ability to read different
>>>>>>>> colored
>>>>>>>> text on different backgrounds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph LaFauci
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> E-Mail: joeleah at iquest.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.joeleah.com <http://www.joeleah.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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