[Reader-users] Software Upgrade

Wed Jul 4 08:31:08 CDT 2007

Your are proving my point.  Regardless what goes on, someone will be 
unhappy.  I'm sorry you cannot have access to the upgrade.  But it is what 
it is.  I do not have it either.  And what is at the top of the list of 
importance to you is not necessarily what is there for me.  I am blessed 
with a family, a cat, a church, a job, and other things that take up the 
time between now and when the upgrade is available and then afterwards.  I'm 
sorry your philosophers cannot tell you how to deal with it.  But it is time 
to move on.  I will enjoy the upgrade when I can.  Until then, I intend to 
live life and enjoy it.

Loren Wakefield

"The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C. 
Shaklee

www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com

319-433-0145 866-433-3969

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1 at btinternet.com>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list" 
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade

> Hi,
>
> Regarding your comment about people complaining about the new 
> functionality,
> isn't that called progress? If we all sat down and said that's lovely and
> didn't make any observations, complaints or tried to further the progress 
> of
> things, good old Aristotle would have the earth still at the centre of the
> universe, columbus wouldn't have discovered your country for a start, not 
> to
> mention we'd still think that the world was flat.
>
> Scientific progress in any disiplin requires that one make suitable, but
> logical observations and try to further our understanding of things using 
> a
> process of Reductio ad absurdum, in other words, my proof is correct 
> because
> yours is, by example, incorrect. Godel stated as mutch in many of his 
> works,
> not to mention the renound philosopher Carl Popper spent a great deal of 
> his
> time working on his theory of critical rationalism.
>
> the reason why I brought up these topics here is that what we see on this
> list is similar to this in that the complainers as you like to put it, are
> actually, by design, proving that functionality isn't working to spec and
> offering alternatives, E.G Reductio ad absurdum. Isn't that the point of 
> any
> beta test cycle? With respect you obviously have no clue about the design
> process.
>
> All the best
>
> -James-
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>
>
>> It does happen elsewhere.  We here in the U.S. do not always get things
>> first all of the time.  It does not make it right in either case, it just
>> makes it what it is.
>>
>> To be fair, regardless which way they did things, someone would be left
>> out
>> or find some other reason to complain.  That's just human nature. 
>> Anyway,
>> I
>> hope to make use of and enjoy this upgrade asap.  And to top it all off,
>> once we have this upgrade and have used it for a little bit, this list
>> will
>> be full of complaints of why such and such a feature was not included, or
>> this feature does not work to someone's satissfaction, or something.
>> That's
>> just the way we humans are.
>>
>> In closing, let me say to all of you here in the U.S. have a great Fourth
>> of
>> July.
>>
>>
>> Loren Wakefield
>>
>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C.
>> Shaklee
>>
>> www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com
>>
>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1 at btinternet.com>
>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I agree to a point, but if the same thing was done over here in Britain,
>>> there would be an upraw. This is were the business moddle kind of falls
>>> down
>>> I think. why should your international market be left out in the cold?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> -James-
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Janet Coleman" <Janet.Coleman at Alltel.net>
>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for writing what I failed to write.  You are correct. Janet-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>> To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader user list"
>>>> <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:30 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is probably an unpopular view, but I do not agree with this line
>>>>> of
>>>>> thinking.
>>>>>
>>>>> We in the U.S. are blessed in many ways.  To say that a business 
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> give
>>>>> a jump to those who attend a particular event is at best,
>>>>> short-sighted.
>>>>> The people at KNFB are not the first, nor  will they be the last to do
>>>>> something like this.  The object at a tradeshow is to draw people to
>>>>> your
>>>>> booth.  And this is an incentive to come see them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now they have also created a huge clamour for this product.  And this
>>>>> is
>>>>> at
>>>>> the convention and the eventual posting afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to a number of things beyond my control, I also was not able to
>>>>> attend
>>>>> this year's dconvention.  So I am waiting as well.  But I do not blame
>>>>> them
>>>>> for introducing it where there are live people and plenty of them. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> convention of NFB and the social gathering of that other thing, are 
>>>>> the
>>>>> two
>>>>> biggest opportunities for companies selling adaptive devices to reach
>>>>> the
>>>>> consumers they  are targeting.  And if they choose to offer this as an
>>>>> incentive to come see them, then more power to them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>>>
>>>>> "The best way to predict your Future is to create it." Dr. Forress C.
>>>>> Shaklee
>>>>>
>>>>> www.ultimatehealthwithtlc.com
>>>>>
>>>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Joseph LaFauci" <joeleah at iquest.net>
>>>>> To: "Reader-Users at Nfbnet. Org" <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Software Upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>> I hope I was clear earlier.  I agree wholeheartedly with all of the
>>>>> comments.  I'm sure it is the most difficult for you folks outside the
>>>>> U.S.
>>>>> I was also saying that there are also many of us here in the states in
>>>>> the
>>>>> same boat.  I think KNFB should have posted the upgrade on the web
>>>>> before
>>>>> they left for Atlanta if it was ready.
>>>>> Maybe there are still people back at KNFB who will post it soon.  I
>>>>> hope
>>>>> so.
>>>>> I think it will be a good upgrade based on Jim's description.
>>>>> I am especially enthusiastic about the ability to read different
>>>>> colored
>>>>> text on different backgrounds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph LaFauci
>>>>>
>>>>> E-Mail: joeleah at iquest.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Web: http://www.joeleah.com <http://www.joeleah.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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