[Reader-users] How do you use yours?

Thu Nov 30 03:20:33 CST 2006

Well the meetings issue is a separate one really.  It is about balencing the dsruption of people's thoughts, including mine, against the additional information I can get from a document.  Also I am still not that skilled in listening to a document while conversation is talong place around me.  I am getting there though and it is surprising how well you can work in mukti-channels of communication in this way.

I don't have an issue woth annoying people with my gadgets.  I have usually asked for documents in advance so...

What you say about buses, trains and plains is encouraging.  I will have to do some tests this weekend!

Has enbody encoutered problems at airports with the device.  It does have a rather threatening look to it.  If I were airport security, I would stick it in a bucket of sand.

Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401 
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/

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From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Barbara Loos
Sent: Wed 29/11/2006 21:58
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] How do you use yours?

I have found that mostly people don't seem to be bothered when I use the
reader at meetings, on moving buses, in airports or planes, in the church
pew, etc.  I find that it does quite well in all of those settings.

Barbara Loos

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis, Graham" <Graham.Lewis at warwick.ac.uk>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list"
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:39 AM
Subject: [Reader-users] How do you use yours?

I tend to use mine to access fairly short documents away from the office.  I
attend a lot of meetings and do not always get all the dicumentation in
advance.  Of course if there are handouts during a meeting it is still
difficult on practice to start snapping away while everybody is talking.

I tracel on trains quite a lot and have not yet tired capturing material
when on a train.  I suspect vibtation and jolting would rule that out even
if I could find the spaceor ecen a seat!

I could see that I might scan a longer document while in a hotel room at a
conference but I wonder how many pages I could scan before replacing the
camera battery.  Yes we have a spare which could be charging.  A tripod
might be useful then but I can't see me dragging it about on the off chance
that I might do this.  I already cause havoc at the airport when they see
all my gadgets.

Having said all that, I am a dabbler and like, I suspect, others here I
always want to fiddle with anyu new device to see what else it can do.

Like the Bookcourier that is now almost part of my body, the reader is one
of those devices that I suspect will become a part of my everyday life.

The chargers are not quite so neat for the UK market.  That nice fold away
camera battery charger has a long cable in the UK and does not fit in the
carrying case.  The PDA charger with its three prong plug really crowds the
carrying case.  I would like to suggest that the carrying case be a little
bogger for the UK market.

Graham

Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/

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From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of mhingson
Sent: Wed 29/11/2006 05:10
To: 'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list'
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Reading books with the KNFB reader

All,

It seems to me that in fact the reader can and will be used to read long
documents and books.  Why not?

The whole idea is to be able to read materials while away from home base or
when not in front of a computer with K1000 or some other PC-based OCR
engine.  I have used the reader to scan long reports. I use it to read a
great deal while traveling.

Batch scanning while preserving the information we now receive about page
orientation during each scan is a good idea.

I wonder if there are any plans to survey current users concerning features
we would like to see.  I am sure a huge suggestion list has been compiled
which would make a great survey list.

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[mailto:reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:53 PM
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Reading books with the KNFB reader

the batch is a must. Now I have to tell it to save images and then when
it begins to process them cancel it and then take the next picture. If
it could save the pic and then have a timer x seconds later take the
next shot, that would be wonderful.
Also, there's no way to select more than one image for processing at a
time from the file mode.
Might be nice if there was a status in the settings some where that kept
track of how many shots you've taken. Maybe the user could decide if it
reset when you turn it on or not. This could be used to keep track of
how many shots you've taken on a current camera battery. -- Would like a
low battery alert on the reader itself.

Kevin
Beth Wright wrote:
> I, too, am intrigued by the possibility of reading books with the KNFB
> reader.  It recognizes so many types of print.  Why waste all that on
> handouts and junk mail?  It sounds as though some people are reading books

> with it already.  If so, and you have any tips and tricks, please send
them
> on, and I'd be in favor of adding at least a few book-reading features to
> future upgrades.
>
> Beth
>
>
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Re: [Reader-users] How do you use yours?
Well the meetings issue is a separate one really.  It is about balencing the dsruption of people's thoughts, including mine, against the additional information I can get from a document.  Also I am still not that skilled in listening to a document while conversation is talong place around me.  I am getting there though and it is surprising how well you can work in mukti-channels of communication in this way.

I don't have an issue woth annoying people with my gadgets.  I have usually asked for documents in advance so...

What you say about buses, trains and plains is encouraging.  I will have to do some tests this weekend!

Has enbody encoutered problems at airports with the device.  It does have a rather threatening look to it.  If I were airport security, I would stick it in a bucket of sand.

Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: mailto:graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/

From:
reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Barbara Loos
Sent:
Wed 29/11/2006 21:58
To:
Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject:
Re: [Reader-users] How do you use yours?
I have found that mostly people don't seem to be bothered when I use the
reader at meetings, on moving buses, in airports or planes, in the church
pew, etc.  I find that it does quite well in all of those settings.
Barbara Loos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lewis, Graham" <Graham.Lewis at warwick.ac.uk>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list"
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:39 AM
Subject: [Reader-users] How do you use yours?
I tend to use mine to access fairly short documents away from the office.  I
attend a lot of meetings and do not always get all the dicumentation in
advance.  Of course if there are handouts during a meeting it is still
difficult on practice to start snapping away while everybody is talking.
I tracel on trains quite a lot and have not yet tired capturing material
when on a train.  I suspect vibtation and jolting would rule that out even
if I could find the spaceor ecen a seat!
I could see that I might scan a longer document while in a hotel room at a
conference but I wonder how many pages I could scan before replacing the
camera battery.  Yes we have a spare which could be charging.  A tripod
might be useful then but I can't see me dragging it about on the off chance
that I might do this.  I already cause havoc at the airport when they see
all my gadgets.
Having said all that, I am a dabbler and like, I suspect, others here I
always want to fiddle with anyu new device to see what else it can do.
Like the Bookcourier that is now almost part of my body, the reader is one
of those devices that I suspect will become a part of my everyday life.
The chargers are not quite so neat for the UK market.  That nice fold away
camera battery charger has a long cable in the UK and does not fit in the
carrying case.  The PDA charger with its three prong plug really crowds the
carrying case.  I would like to suggest that the carrying case be a little
bogger for the UK market.
Graham
Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/
________________________________
From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of mhingson
Sent: Wed 29/11/2006 05:10
To: 'Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list'
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Reading books with the KNFB reader
All,
It seems to me that in fact the reader can and will be used to read long
documents and books.  Why not?
The whole idea is to be able to read materials while away from home base or
when not in front of a computer with K1000 or some other PC-based OCR
engine.  I have used the reader to scan long reports. I use it to read a
great deal while traveling.
Batch scanning while preserving the information we now receive about page
orientation during each scan is a good idea.
I wonder if there are any plans to survey current users concerning features
we would like to see.  I am sure a huge suggestion list has been compiled
which would make a great survey list.
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] On Behalf Of Kevin Jones
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:53 PM
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] Reading books with the KNFB reader
the batch is a must. Now I have to tell it to save images and then when
it begins to process them cancel it and then take the next picture. If
it could save the pic and then have a timer x seconds later take the
next shot, that would be wonderful.
Also, there's no way to select more than one image for processing at a
time from the file mode.
Might be nice if there was a status in the settings some where that kept
track of how many shots you've taken. Maybe the user could decide if it
reset when you turn it on or not. This could be used to keep track of
how many shots you've taken on a current camera battery. -- Would like a
low battery alert on the reader itself.
Kevin
Beth Wright wrote:
> I, too, am intrigued by the possibility of reading books with the KNFB
> reader.  It recognizes so many types of print.  Why waste all that on
> handouts and junk mail?  It sounds as though some people are reading books
> with it already.  If so, and you have any tips and tricks, please send
them
> on, and I'd be in favor of adding at least a few book-reading features to
> future upgrades.
>
> Beth
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Reader-users at nfbnet.org
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