[Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions

[Lewis, Graham]

Kevin,
       Please let us know how you get on with that.  It might be something I try at a later date.
 
Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401 
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/

 

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From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Kevin Jones
Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 12:42
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions



ye I wasn't lucky enough to be born into a family that rich either.
The reason why you would want to use a  tripod, to use the reader on a
large say 100 page or more document. The problem is because of the pda
attached, it won't fit on a tripod.
I actually have a special cable made so i can remove the camera from the
case and connect the cable between the camera and the reader case so
that I can use tripods. Cable is new so I haven't played too much yet.
Kevin

Lewis, Graham wrote:
> [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
> Wow you have rich and or generous friends!  Please introduce me to them!
> 
> When it was working, I was getting quite amazing resultseven at angles of around 10 to 12 percent off the virtical.  It struggles with low text to backgprund contrast such as grey text or coloured text on colured backgprunds but then a desktop scanner would too.
> 
> I did notice that the camera seems to have a screw nounting on the bottom which might be useful as the device could be attached to the bottom on a camera tripod.  Not sure why I would do that rather than use my dektop scanner but just a thought.
> 
> 
> Graham Lewis
> Centre for Academic Practice
> University of Warwick
> University House
> Kirby Corner Road
> Coventry CV4 8UW
> UK
> Email: mailto:graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
> Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
> Mobile: 07703100401
> Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
> Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/
> 
> From:
> reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Kim Morrow
> Sent:
> Tue 28/11/2006 08:20
> To:
> reader-users at nfbnet.org
> Subject:
> [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
>             A few days ago, I had the honor and privilege of receiving a
> KNFB Reader as a gift. Since that time, I have logged in quite a number of
> hours reading the manuals cover to cover and experimenting with the device.
> While the KNFB Reader appears to be a marvelous tool, I am experiencing
> challenges in taking consistently effective pictures of material that would
> render the material legible. I'm quite confident that such is the case with
> many a new KNFB Reader user, expecially those who, like me, are totally
> blind from birth and have thus not experienced the opportunity to learn
> about conditions that make for optimal picture-taking environments.
> Here is the greatest challenge I am currently experiencing: No matter how
> clear the text I am attempting to scan may be, I am discovering that there
> is little consistency in how the scan will turn out. I have attempted to
> always orient myself from the same portion of the page, e.g. always from the
> upper righthand or lefthand corner or always from the middle), with very
> mixed results ranging from an almost perfect scan to totally illegible. I
> have attempted to cover one side of a text-filled book (containing no
> pictures), with a white sheet of typing paper, so that I am sure the correct
> side of a page is read. I have asked sighted friends to assist me in
> minimizing glare and to assist in the location of optimal scanning
> environments e.g. surrounding surfaces that are not too dark, Etc.)-still
> with extremely mixed results.
> My question, then: What are some rules of the road not listed in the manuals
> that might make the scanning experience for a first-time user more
> consistent and effective? My expectations for the capabilities of this
> device are much higher than what I have thus far been able to achieve, since
> I am attempting to scan texts with no pictures with very standard print. If
> I were attempting to scan CD covers or cereal boxes, I believe my
> expectations for excellence would be quite out of line.
> Are there any consistent guidelines I can follow beyond those listed in the
> manual in terms of taking effective pictures of material?
> Sincerely,
> Kimberly Morrow
> morrowmediakc at yahoo.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
Kevin,
       Please let us know how you get on with that.  It might be something I try at a later date.
 
Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: mailto:graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/
 
From:
reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Kevin Jones
Sent:
Tue 28/11/2006 12:42
To:
Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject:
Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
ye I wasn't lucky enough to be born into a family that rich either.
The reason why you would want to use a  tripod, to use the reader on a
large say 100 page or more document. The problem is because of the pda
attached, it won't fit on a tripod.
I actually have a special cable made so i can remove the camera from the
case and connect the cable between the camera and the reader case so
that I can use tripods. Cable is new so I haven't played too much yet.
Kevin
Lewis, Graham wrote:
> [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
> Wow you have rich and or generous friends!  Please introduce me to them!
> 
> When it was working, I was getting quite amazing resultseven at angles of around 10 to 12 percent off the virtical.  It struggles with low text to backgprund contrast such as grey text or coloured text on colured backgprunds but then a desktop scanner would too.
> 
> I did notice that the camera seems to have a screw nounting on the bottom which might be useful as the device could be attached to the bottom on a camera tripod.  Not sure why I would do that rather than use my dektop scanner but just a thought.
> 
> 
> Graham Lewis
> Centre for Academic Practice
> University of Warwick
> University House
> Kirby Corner Road
> Coventry CV4 8UW
> UK
> Email: mailto:graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk mailto:graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
> Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
> Mobile: 07703100401
> Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
> Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/
http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/
> 
> From:
> reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Kim Morrow
> Sent:
> Tue 28/11/2006 08:20
> To:
> reader-users at nfbnet.org
> Subject:
> [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
>             A few days ago, I had the honor and privilege of receiving a
> KNFB Reader as a gift. Since that time, I have logged in quite a number of
> hours reading the manuals cover to cover and experimenting with the device.
> While the KNFB Reader appears to be a marvelous tool, I am experiencing
> challenges in taking consistently effective pictures of material that would
> render the material legible. I'm quite confident that such is the case with
> many a new KNFB Reader user, expecially those who, like me, are totally
> blind from birth and have thus not experienced the opportunity to learn
> about conditions that make for optimal picture-taking environments.
> Here is the greatest challenge I am currently experiencing: No matter how
> clear the text I am attempting to scan may be, I am discovering that there
> is little consistency in how the scan will turn out. I have attempted to
> always orient myself from the same portion of the page, e.g. always from the
> upper righthand or lefthand corner or always from the middle), with very
> mixed results ranging from an almost perfect scan to totally illegible. I
> have attempted to cover one side of a text-filled book (containing no
> pictures), with a white sheet of typing paper, so that I am sure the correct
> side of a page is read. I have asked sighted friends to assist me in
> minimizing glare and to assist in the location of optimal scanning
> environments e.g. surrounding surfaces that are not too dark, Etc.)-still
> with extremely mixed results.
> My question, then: What are some rules of the road not listed in the manuals
> that might make the scanning experience for a first-time user more
> consistent and effective? My expectations for the capabilities of this
> device are much higher than what I have thus far been able to achieve, since
> I am attempting to scan texts with no pictures with very standard print. If
> I were attempting to scan CD covers or cereal boxes, I believe my
> expectations for excellence would be quite out of line.
> Are there any consistent guidelines I can follow beyond those listed in the
> manual in terms of taking effective pictures of material?
> Sincerely,
> Kimberly Morrow
> morrowmediakc at yahoo.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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