[Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions

Tue Nov 28 08:24:08 CST 2006

Even with white paper on a white table, ot seems to find the corners very well but I susepct a surface a bit darker might help and also a surface that is plain. 

Does anybody know how to turn the external speaker back on?  I seem to have disabled it.

Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
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From: reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Gary Wunder
Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 14:03
To: Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions

Only try to ensure there is good light.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list"
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions

> Kimberly,
>
> I think Jan's comments about fussing too much with the placement of the
> reader are correct.  If you hold the reader above the page, about 16
> inches,
> as the manual suggests, and don't worry a whole lot about the placement
> (just try to hold it pretty much center), you should get a good picture.
> Also, be sure that the settings have the camera flash always on, and
> resolution high.  Some people have found it helpful to place the camera
> flat
> on the page and then lift straight up to the 16 inch height, and then snap
> the picture.You shouldn't have to worry, much about your surroundings when
> taking a picture.
>
> Cindy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kim Morrow" <morrowmediakc at yahoo.com>
> To: <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:20 AM
> Subject: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
>
>
>            A few days ago, I had the honor and privilege of receiving a
> KNFB Reader as a gift. Since that time, I have logged in quite a number of
> hours reading the manuals cover to cover and experimenting with the
> device.
> While the KNFB Reader appears to be a marvelous tool, I am experiencing
> challenges in taking consistently effective pictures of material that
> would
> render the material legible. I'm quite confident that such is the case
> with
> many a new KNFB Reader user, expecially those who, like me, are totally
> blind from birth and have thus not experienced the opportunity to learn
> about conditions that make for optimal picture-taking environments.
>
>
>
> Here is the greatest challenge I am currently experiencing: No matter how
> clear the text I am attempting to scan may be, I am discovering that there
> is little consistency in how the scan will turn out. I have attempted to
> always orient myself from the same portion of the page, e.g. always from
> the
> upper righthand or lefthand corner or always from the middle), with very
> mixed results ranging from an almost perfect scan to totally illegible. I
> have attempted to cover one side of a text-filled book (containing no
> pictures), with a white sheet of typing paper, so that I am sure the
> correct
> side of a page is read. I have asked sighted friends to assist me in
> minimizing glare and to assist in the location of optimal scanning
> environments e.g. surrounding surfaces that are not too dark, Etc.)-still
> with extremely mixed results.
>
>
>
> My question, then: What are some rules of the road not listed in the
> manuals
> that might make the scanning experience for a first-time user more
> consistent and effective? My expectations for the capabilities of this
> device are much higher than what I have thus far been able to achieve,
> since
> I am attempting to scan texts with no pictures with very standard print.
> If
> I were attempting to scan CD covers or cereal boxes, I believe my
> expectations for excellence would be quite out of line.
>
>
>
> Are there any consistent guidelines I can follow beyond those listed in
> the
> manual in terms of taking effective pictures of material?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Kimberly Morrow
>
>
>
> morrowmediakc at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
Even with white paper on a white table, ot seems to find the corners very well but I susepct a surface a bit darker might help and also a surface that is plain. 

Does anybody know how to turn the external speaker back on?  I seem to have disabled it.

Graham Lewis
Centre for Academic Practice
University of Warwick
University House
Kirby Corner Road
Coventry CV4 8UW
UK
Email: mailto:graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk graham.lewis at warwick.ac.uk
Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737
Mobile: 07703100401
Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72736
Blog: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/ http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/glewis/

From:
reader-users-bounces at nfbnet.org on behalf of Gary Wunder
Sent:
Tue 28/11/2006 14:03
To:
Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list
Subject:
Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
Only try to ensure there is good light.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
To: "Kurzweil National Federation of the Blind Reader users list"
<reader-users at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
> Kimberly,
>
> I think Jan's comments about fussing too much with the placement of the
> reader are correct.  If you hold the reader above the page, about 16
> inches,
> as the manual suggests, and don't worry a whole lot about the placement
> (just try to hold it pretty much center), you should get a good picture.
> Also, be sure that the settings have the camera flash always on, and
> resolution high.  Some people have found it helpful to place the camera
> flat
> on the page and then lift straight up to the 16 inch height, and then snap
> the picture.You shouldn't have to worry, much about your surroundings when
> taking a picture.
>
> Cindy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kim Morrow" <morrowmediakc at yahoo.com>
> To: <reader-users at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:20 AM
> Subject: [Reader-users] new KNFB reader user poses questions
>
>
>            A few days ago, I had the honor and privilege of receiving a
> KNFB Reader as a gift. Since that time, I have logged in quite a number of
> hours reading the manuals cover to cover and experimenting with the
> device.
> While the KNFB Reader appears to be a marvelous tool, I am experiencing
> challenges in taking consistently effective pictures of material that
> would
> render the material legible. I'm quite confident that such is the case
> with
> many a new KNFB Reader user, expecially those who, like me, are totally
> blind from birth and have thus not experienced the opportunity to learn
> about conditions that make for optimal picture-taking environments.
>
>
>
> Here is the greatest challenge I am currently experiencing: No matter how
> clear the text I am attempting to scan may be, I am discovering that there
> is little consistency in how the scan will turn out. I have attempted to
> always orient myself from the same portion of the page, e.g. always from
> the
> upper righthand or lefthand corner or always from the middle), with very
> mixed results ranging from an almost perfect scan to totally illegible. I
> have attempted to cover one side of a text-filled book (containing no
> pictures), with a white sheet of typing paper, so that I am sure the
> correct
> side of a page is read. I have asked sighted friends to assist me in
> minimizing glare and to assist in the location of optimal scanning
> environments e.g. surrounding surfaces that are not too dark, Etc.)-still
> with extremely mixed results.
>
>
>
> My question, then: What are some rules of the road not listed in the
> manuals
> that might make the scanning experience for a first-time user more
> consistent and effective? My expectations for the capabilities of this
> device are much higher than what I have thus far been able to achieve,
> since
> I am attempting to scan texts with no pictures with very standard print.
> If
> I were attempting to scan CD covers or cereal boxes, I believe my
> expectations for excellence would be quite out of line.
>
>
>
> Are there any consistent guidelines I can follow beyond those listed in
> the
> manual in terms of taking effective pictures of material?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Kimberly Morrow
>
>
>
> morrowmediakc at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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>
>
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