From goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  1 16:16:34 2015
From: goldendolphin17 at hotmail.com (Kathy Nimmer)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 11:16:34 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] Passing on a secret opportunity to honor someone we all
	know
Message-ID: <BAY172-DS1129E4FCA719140ED736F5BA5C0@phx.gbl>

A chance to be part of a surprise gift for one of the most beloved narrators NLS has ever had. Read on.
Mitzi Friedlander is officially retiring
at the end of January.
American  Printing  House is throwing her a party and she is involve in the planning
of it. We in the studio want to do something special to SURPRISE her. We would love
to collect AUDIO mp3 files of greetings to compile for her. So many phones and computers
have that capability now. We want to keep
it a surprise.
If anyone would like to send a brief audio file (mp3) of well-wishing for Mitzi to
me that would be wonderful. A brief file can be sent directly to my email.
If people don't have the capability to do that, we would love to collect cards, letters
or emails. Then we could have one of our narrators read them. I would love to get
as many actual voices as possible because I think Mitzi would find it apropos since
SHE has been listened to so much!
Please pass this on if you will. And anyone can contact me any way below.(we may
be able to record  a greeting over my phone!)
Thank you very much! 
Erin Jones
ej2roads at yahoo.com
502-403-6636
1026 East Oak Street
Louisville, KY 40204
Kathy Nimmer
"When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe

From knownoflove at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 22:40:12 2015
From: knownoflove at gmail.com (Miranda B.)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 17:40:12 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] Representing a family tree
Message-ID: <000801d027a6$3cf97460$b6ec5d20$@gmail.com>

Hi,

In our ESL class, we are discussing friends and family in our next unit.
Have any of you used a family tree with your students, and if so how did you
go about doing this? I have no vision, and my lead teacher has some sight.
All of our students are sighted adults. We have alternative activities
available, so this is not a required component to the unit. However, I'm
just curious as to how this could be done, in case we decided to explore the
option.

Thanks, and have a wonderful week!

 

--Miranda

 

 



From christine at in-sightful.com  Fri Jan  9 20:11:53 2015
From: christine at in-sightful.com (christine at in-sightful.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 10:11:53 -1000
Subject: [nobe-l] Alabama Resource Handbook Available
Message-ID: <000001d02c48$835c8310$8a158930$@in-sightful.com>

Hello All,

 

I have created a screen reader-friendly Alabama Resource Handbook containing
resources pertaining to the blind and visually impaired, for use by
consumers and professionals.

 

This handbook is for the residents of Alabama and includes the many
organizations for the blind and visually impaired covering areas such as
employment, housing, transportation, and more.



The handbook includes contact information on the local, regional, and
national level. 

 

For more information on pricing and formats please contact Insightful
Publications by email at  <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
christine at in-sightful.com or by phone at (808) 747-1006.

 

Thank you for your time regarding this matter.

 

Sincerely,

Christine Chaikin President

Insightful Publications

Email:  <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> christine at in-sightful.com

Office: (808) 747-1006

Website: in-sightful.com

Facebook:
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From christine at in-sightful.com  Fri Jan  9 20:12:37 2015
From: christine at in-sightful.com (christine at in-sightful.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 10:12:37 -1000
Subject: [nobe-l] Hawaii Resource Handbook Available
Message-ID: <000d01d02c48$9e58edc0$db0ac940$@in-sightful.com>

Hello All,

 

I have created a screen reader-friendly Hawaii Resource Handbook containing
resources pertaining to the blind and visually impaired, for use by
consumers and professionals.

 

This handbook is for the residents of Hawaii includes the many organizations
for the blind and visually impaired covering areas such as employment,
housing, transportation, and more.

The handbook includes contact information on the local, regional, and
national level. 

                                  

For more information on pricing and formats please contact Insightful
Publications by email at  <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com>
christine at in-sightful.com or by phone at (808) 747-1006.

 

Thank you for your time regarding this matter.

 

Sincerely,

Christine Chaikin President

Insightful Publications

Email:  <mailto:christine at in-sightful.com> christine at in-sightful.com

Office: (808) 747-1006

Website: in-sightful.com

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Insightful-Publications/330846223609963

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From afutty at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 03:40:41 2015
From: afutty at gmail.com (afutty at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:40:41 -0600
Subject: [nobe-l] Perky Duck and Jaws
Message-ID: <470370F2-3AC5-4F03-9ED5-F48C5813A0B9@gmail.com>

Hello, 

I was wondering if anyone here had experience with using Perky Duck with Jaws and if there were any resources out there for using Jaws with Perky Duck.  On a very basic level I am trying to figure out if it is accessible with Jaws, and if so are there any tricks of the trade that you might be able to offer?  

Best,
Allie 


From dlmillette at friendlycity.net  Tue Jan 13 04:03:40 2015
From: dlmillette at friendlycity.net (Denise Millette)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:03:40 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] Perky Duck and Jaws
In-Reply-To: <470370F2-3AC5-4F03-9ED5-F48C5813A0B9@gmail.com>
References: <470370F2-3AC5-4F03-9ED5-F48C5813A0B9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0A9D58B1-CE51-430A-9791-CE6A5679D4FF@friendlycity.net>

I have used them together. They work ok. It has been a while and my use was limited but it did work. My only advice is to also use a braille display otherwise formatting gets tricky. 
HTH 
Denise Millette

> On Jan 12, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Allie Futty via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I was wondering if anyone here had experience with using Perky Duck with Jaws and if there were any resources out there for using Jaws with Perky Duck.  On a very basic level I am trying to figure out if it is accessible with Jaws, and if so are there any tricks of the trade that you might be able to offer?  
> 
> Best,
> Allie 
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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Tue Jan 13 13:06:43 2015
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 13:06:43 +0000
Subject: [nobe-l] Jaws and Purkyduck
Message-ID: <782b074abba94c3eb7c46130696c3497@Exchange.wcbvi.k12.wi.us>

I have used it, in previous iterations of both, and it does work. 

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Hello, 

I was wondering if anyone here had experience with using Perky Duck with Jaws and if there were any resources out there for using Jaws with Perky Duck.  On a very basic level I am trying to figure out if it is accessible with Jaws, and if so are there any tricks of the trade that you might be able to offer?  

Best,
Allie 


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:03:40 -0500
From: Denise Millette <dlmillette at friendlycity.net>
To: "afutty at gmail.com" <afutty at gmail.com>,	National Organization of
	Blind Educators Mailing List <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Perky Duck and Jaws
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Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I have used them together. They work ok. It has been a while and my use was limited but it did work. My only advice is to also use a braille display otherwise formatting gets tricky. 
HTH
Denise Millette

> On Jan 12, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Allie Futty via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone here had experience with using Perky Duck with Jaws and if there were any resources out there for using Jaws with Perky Duck.  On a very basic level I am trying to figure out if it is accessible with Jaws, and if so are there any tricks of the trade that you might be able to offer?  
> 
> Best,
> Allie
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From dandrews at visi.com  Sat Jan 17 04:44:27 2015
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:44:27 -0600
Subject: [nobe-l] Fwd: [Nfbmn-news] Fwd: PREP announcement
Message-ID: <auto-000012504898@mailfront2.g2host.com>


>
>This announcement to encourage high school students to apply for the
>summer PREP program comes from Charlene Guggisberg, Admissions and
>Special Programs Manager at BLIND, Inc. Please circulate widely!
>
>Warm Greetings from BLIND, Incorporated:
>
>
>
>It is once again time to start making plans for your summer.  This
>year the PREP, Post-secondary Readiness Empowerment Program, our
>eight-week program for blind high school students, will run from June
>14, 2015 to August 7, 2015.
>
>
>
>This exciting summer program is for blind high school students and is
>designed to prepare them for academic, employment, and social success.
>The PREP curriculum is designed to empower blind youth with the
>alternative techniques of blindness they will need to be successful in
>the college and the career fields they choose, and to give them the
>confidence and belief in themselves they need to find and keep a job.
>
>
>
>The core classes include Braille reading and writing, independent cane
>travel, adaptive technology, career exploration, and home/dormitory
>management, which includes cooking, cleaning, washing and labeling
>clothes, personal care, and daily living skills.  Students also
>participate in regularly scheduled discussion groups designed to build
>confidence and learn from blind peers and adults.  This program
>includes a three-week paid employment experience.  Students will
>utilize the skills they have developed while earning minimum wage
>working approximately 20 hours per week in local businesses and
>agencies.
>
>
>
>PREP students live with fellow students and adult counselors. These
>counselors and instructors serve as successful and positive role
>models.  Students shop for groceries, prepare meals, and clean their
>apartments as part of their home and personal management training.
>They begin to learn how to live independently while still in a
>supportive environment. They develop problem-solving skills and come
>to realize that they will be able to take care of themselves and take
>responsibility for their own futures.
>
>
>
>This program is based on a positive view of blindness, that if blind
>people are given proper training and opportunity, they can be
>successful in education, find meaningful employment, and live full and
>productive lives.
>
>
>
>Traveling to Orlando Florida
>
>In July, 2015 PREP students will enjoy the exciting opportunity of
>accompanying BLIND, Incorporated staff and adult students as we travel
>to Orlando, Florida to attend the weeklong national convention of the
>National Federation of the Blind.  During this convention, our PREP
>students will join hundreds of other high school and college students
>from around the country when attending the National Association of
>Blind Students seminar.  Students will also attend other meetings,
>seminars, learn about new ground-breaking technology and get involved
>in social and recreational activities. This annual convention is
>packed full of fun and great learning opportunities and experiences.
>
>
>
>Throughout the summer the PREP students will also participate in a
>variety of fun activities including going to Wild Mountain Water Park,
>camping, rock climbing, shopping at various malls, etc.
>
>
>
>For more information: or to complete an application you can visit our
>website at www.blindinc.org or call 612-872-0100 (ext. 251), or toll
>free 800-597-9558, or e-mail cguggisberg at blindinc.org
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>
>Charlene Guggisberg, Admissions and Special Programs Manager
>
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         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org




From nfbmn-news at nfbnet.org  Sat Jan 17 04:45:00 2015
From: nfbmn-news at nfbnet.org (Jennifer Dunnam via Nfbmn-news)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:45:00 -0600
Subject: [nobe-l] [Nfbmn-news] Fwd: Buddy summer program
Message-ID: <auto-000012504912@mailfront2.g2host.com>


Here is another announcement from Charlene, this one to encourage
participation of children ages 9-13 in the summer Buddy program.
Please help spread the word!

Warm Greetings from BLIND, Incorporated:



It is once again time to start planning for our 2015 Buddy program!

This three-week summer fun and learning program is for children ages 9 to 13.

The dates are July 18, 2015 through August 7 2015.




The Buddy Program offers an opportunity for blind children to make
friends and have fun in a positive and secure setting.  Students will
learn and practice alternative techniques of blindness while building
self-confidence.



The training in alternative techniques includes instruction in reading
and writing Braille, basic cane travel, cooking skills, and
introductions to independent living skills.  Students may learn to
pour liquids, carry a food tray, do laundry, follow a recipe, and much
more while building self- confidence and problem solving skills.




Students also participate in "talk time," where they discuss important
issues about blindness with blind peers and instructors.  This time
gives the students a chance to discuss their feelings about blindness,
their frustrations with uncomfortable situations, and helps them to
problem-solve and develop a positive attitude about blindness and
their abilities as blind students.




In addition, students participate in many exciting activities in the
Twin Cities area, such as visits to nature parks, Wild Mountain Water
Park, and rock climbing.  These activities allow students to develop
their socialization skills.  Activities are well supervised and
mentoring for the children is provided by active blind role models.
Lifelong friendships begin during this brief summer experience.



One of our goals during these recreational\educational activities is
to teach our students the alternative techniques of blindness and help
them gain the self-confidence that would allow them to return home and
actively participate in even more fun activities with their sighted
friends.

  Activities are excellent opportunities to teach and reinforce a wide
variety of alternative techniques, as they apply to real life.  These
learning experiences are usually most effective when there is plenty
of fun involved!



If you have questions please call 612-872-0100 (ext. 251), toll-free

  800-597-9558, or email cguggisberg at blindinc.org.  You may complete an
application by visiting our website at www.blindinc.org



Sincerely,



Charlene Guggisberg

Admissions and Special Programs Manager

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From nfb-science at nfbnet.org  Sat Jan 24 10:59:33 2015
From: nfb-science at nfbnet.org (Li Zhou via Nfb-science)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 04:59:33 -0600
Subject: [nobe-l] Survey on Teaching Topographic Maps
Message-ID: <auto-000013411926@mailfront1.g2host.com>

Dear Teachers,

     We at APH are currently considering developing a product that may
help students with blindness and low vision understand how contour
lines are drawn and how topographic maps are used. Because topographic
maps and contour lines are 2D quantitative representations developed
by simplifying real 3D land surfaces, some students without adequate
visual input may have difficulty in understanding this abstract
knowledge.

     We are conducting a short survey to learn how this knowledge is
currently being taught to these students and whether it is necessary
to add additional tools. If you have ever taught middle or high school
students who are visually impaired (even if you have never taught this
specific knowledge), please consider taking this survey. If you happen
to know some other teachers (including those in general schools) who
have ever done so, please help us by forwarding this message.

     To take the survey, please click the following link:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/topography

     The survey will remain active until January 31st, 2015.

     Thank you!

Li Zhou, Ed.D.
Core-Curriculum Project Leader
American Printing House for the Blind
P.O. Box 6085
Louisville, Kentucky 40206
Phone: 800-223-1839, ext. 424
Email: lzhou at aph.org

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From david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us  Mon Jan 26 14:01:35 2015
From: david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:01:35 +0000
Subject: [nobe-l] Job in Northern Wisconsin
Message-ID: <30b40b747b774af4918053f5a27d07e3@Exchange.wcbvi.k12.wi.us>


[https://wiscnetmail.net/attach/logo.jpg?sid=iw9m3XejLH8&mbox=INBOX&charset=escaped_unicode&uid=15568&number=4&filename=logo.jpg]

 POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT


Teacher for Students with Visual Impairments
       Deadline for Application: Until Filled





Cooperative Educational Services Agency 10 (CESA 10) in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin is looking for an individual to serve as a teacher of students with visual impairments to provide itinerant services within CESA 10 school districts and those counties receiving Birth to 3 services through CESA 10.

The successful candidate will provide itinerant vision services, perform evaluations, develop and implement IEPs and consult with school personnel and parents. The position requires a DPI license 825 in Visual Impairment; a License 826 in Orientation and Mobility is strongly preferred.  Must have excellent interpersonal skills and the ability to perform extensive day travel.

This is a full-time, school year position.  Pay will commensurate with experience.  An excellent benefit package will be provided. Interested applicants must apply using WECAN.  http://services.education.wisc.edu/wecan/





It is the policy of CESA #10 to afford equal opportunity for employment to all individuals regardless of age, race, religion, color, sex, national origin or ancestry, handicap, physical condition, developmental disability (as defined in S.51.01(5)), arrest or conviction received (in keeping with S.111.32), sexual orientation or marital status.



David Hyde, Professional Development Coordinator
Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1700 W. State Street
Janesville WI  53546
608-758-6152 (office)
608-758-6169 (fax)
866-284-1107 ext. 34 (toll free)
email
david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us<mailto:david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>

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From kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 23:17:24 2015
From: kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:17:24 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
Message-ID: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>

Hello,
I signed up to be an online tutor with tutor.com.  The signup 
process was pretty accessible until it came time for the mock 
tutoring session.  They use their own classroom which is 
completely unusable with any screen reader.  I contacted the 
company about it, but they pretty much said there's nothing they 
can do to help me.  This was coming from the tech support staff.  
They do not have a version of the classroom that is compatible 
with a screen reader and they did not seem willing to even 
explore the idea.  As a result, my application had to be put on 
hold.  That is unfair since I've come this far and now I can't 
tutor just because of an inaccessible website.  I'm pretty sure 
the company is in violation of 508.  Am I correct? I am 
considering writing a letter to the president of the company 
letting him know that their organization is violating several 
disability laws.  Therefore, I am posting this message because I 
am hoping you all can help me with the content of the letter.  I 
want to make sure my voice is heard, but I also don't want to get 
in their face about it and come off as sounding rude.  Therefore, 
how would you suggest I word the letter? I thought I could tutor 
part-time in addition to another job since I really enjoy it.

Thank you,
Kelsey Nicolay



From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Tue Jan 27 23:30:18 2015
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:30:18 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
In-Reply-To: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>
References: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <8B14D0C3C82F4D9DA1925C1445AED7C8@OwnerPC>

Kelsey,
section 508 applies to  government sites only.
so if you are going to site laws, use the ADA.

A better approach is to state your problems, explain your assistive tech and 
explain you would like to use the site.
When people mention laws and violations, some people are scared or put off.

Do your research before writing. you obviously did not know what 508 was.
Be careful. When crafting letters you need your facts straight.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kelsey Nicolay via nobe-l
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:17 PM
To: nobe-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring

Hello,
I signed up to be an online tutor with tutor.com.  The signup
process was pretty accessible until it came time for the mock
tutoring session.  They use their own classroom which is
completely unusable with any screen reader.  I contacted the
company about it, but they pretty much said there's nothing they
can do to help me.  This was coming from the tech support staff.
They do not have a version of the classroom that is compatible
with a screen reader and they did not seem willing to even
explore the idea.  As a result, my application had to be put on
hold.  That is unfair since I've come this far and now I can't
tutor just because of an inaccessible website.  I'm pretty sure
the company is in violation of 508.  Am I correct? I am
considering writing a letter to the president of the company
letting him know that their organization is violating several
disability laws.  Therefore, I am posting this message because I
am hoping you all can help me with the content of the letter.  I
want to make sure my voice is heard, but I also don't want to get
in their face about it and come off as sounding rude.  Therefore,
how would you suggest I word the letter? I thought I could tutor
part-time in addition to another job since I really enjoy it.

Thank you,
Kelsey Nicolay

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From kthornbury at bresnan.net  Wed Jan 28 00:03:04 2015
From: kthornbury at bresnan.net (Kelly Thornbury)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:03:04 -0700
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
In-Reply-To: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>
References: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <8FF49733-8535-45D2-AB4D-1F2BA98CF961@bresnan.net>

Don't believe the company is violating any laws regarding disabilities. Certainly not Sec 508. Company also doesn't seem to offer any professional licenses or certifications so I don't think there is an argument through ADA Titles [I-III] which ever covers government and commercial certs. You could write the president and express your disappointment but I think your legal arguments are baseless. 



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 16:17, Kelsey Nicolay via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I signed up to be an online tutor with tutor.com.  The signup process was pretty accessible until it came time for the mock tutoring session.  They use their own classroom which is completely unusable with any screen reader.  I contacted the company about it, but they pretty much said there's nothing they can do to help me.  This was coming from the tech support staff.  They do not have a version of the classroom that is compatible with a screen reader and they did not seem willing to even explore the idea.  As a result, my application had to be put on hold.  That is unfair since I've come this far and now I can't tutor just because of an inaccessible website.  I'm pretty sure the company is in violation of 508.  Am I correct? I am considering writing a letter to the president of the company letting him know that their organization is violating several disability laws.  Therefore, I am posting this message because I am hoping you all can help me with the content of the letter.  I want to make sure my voice is heard, but I also don't want to get in their face about it and come off as sounding rude.  Therefore, how would you suggest I word the letter? I thought I could tutor part-time in addition to another job since I really enjoy it.
> 
> Thank you,
> Kelsey Nicolay
> 
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From singingmywayin at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:39:54 2015
From: singingmywayin at gmail.com (Danielle Antoine)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:39:54 -0600
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
In-Reply-To: <8FF49733-8535-45D2-AB4D-1F2BA98CF961@bresnan.net>
References: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>
	<8FF49733-8535-45D2-AB4D-1F2BA98CF961@bresnan.net>
Message-ID: <CAMxXqETXJ4WHMVTYkbfzYMMbdeX__TOFmpzNb0biEkM_UpRWSg@mail.gmail.com>

This is something I hadn't thougth of. I was all excited at the
possibility till I read of your experience. There is something drafted
up somewhere requiring sites be accessible or at least come into
compliance. I would check with Freedom Scientific and GW Micro on this
and see if they can help. I often run into problems such as this and
express my disappointment but then refer them to the two popular
screen reader companies whom I know are up--to-date on website and
screen reader compatibility. I encourage you to post on the blindtech
list on freelists.org and the blindTalk list at on nfbnet.org

HTH,
Daniellle

On 1/27/15, Kelly Thornbury via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Don't believe the company is violating any laws regarding disabilities.
> Certainly not Sec 508. Company also doesn't seem to offer any professional
> licenses or certifications so I don't think there is an argument through ADA
> Titles [I-III] which ever covers government and commercial certs. You could
> write the president and express your disappointment but I think your legal
> arguments are baseless.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 16:17, Kelsey Nicolay via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I signed up to be an online tutor with tutor.com.  The signup process was
>> pretty accessible until it came time for the mock tutoring session.  They
>> use their own classroom which is completely unusable with any screen
>> reader.  I contacted the company about it, but they pretty much said
>> there's nothing they can do to help me.  This was coming from the tech
>> support staff.  They do not have a version of the classroom that is
>> compatible with a screen reader and they did not seem willing to even
>> explore the idea.  As a result, my application had to be put on hold.
>> That is unfair since I've come this far and now I can't tutor just because
>> of an inaccessible website.  I'm pretty sure the company is in violation
>> of 508.  Am I correct? I am considering writing a letter to the president
>> of the company letting him know that their organization is violating
>> several disability laws.  Therefore, I am posting this message because I
>> am hoping you all can help me with the content of the letter.  I want to
>> make sure my voice is heard, but I also don't want to get in their face
>> about it and come off as sounding rude.  Therefore, how would you suggest
>> I word the letter? I thought I could tutor part-time in addition to
>> another job since I really enjoy it.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Kelsey Nicolay
>>
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From Albert at Myblindspot.org  Thu Jan 29 04:55:51 2015
From: Albert at Myblindspot.org (Albert Rizzi)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:55:51 +0000
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
In-Reply-To: <CAMxXqETXJ4WHMVTYkbfzYMMbdeX__TOFmpzNb0biEkM_UpRWSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54c81cbe.4b318c0a.45b3.1110@mx.google.com>
	<8FF49733-8535-45D2-AB4D-1F2BA98CF961@bresnan.net>
	<CAMxXqETXJ4WHMVTYkbfzYMMbdeX__TOFmpzNb0biEkM_UpRWSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CO2PR0701MB7251B8E97ED58FBE277D22BC3300@CO2PR0701MB725.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

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-----Original Message-----
From: nobe-l [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Antoine via nobe-l
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:40 PM
To: Kelly Thornbury; National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nobe-l] online tutoring

This is something I hadn't thougth of. I was all excited at the possibility till I read of your experience. There is something drafted up somewhere requiring sites be accessible or at least come into compliance. I would check with Freedom Scientific and GW Micro on this and see if they can help. I often run into problems such as this and express my disappointment but then refer them to the two popular screen reader companies whom I know are up--to-date on website and screen reader compatibility. I encourage you to post on the blindtech list on freelists.org and the blindTalk list at on nfbnet.org

HTH,
Daniellle

On 1/27/15, Kelly Thornbury via nobe-l <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Don't believe the company is violating any laws regarding disabilities.
> Certainly not Sec 508. Company also doesn't seem to offer any 
> professional licenses or certifications so I don't think there is an 
> argument through ADA Titles [I-III] which ever covers government and 
> commercial certs. You could write the president and express your 
> disappointment but I think your legal arguments are baseless.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 16:17, Kelsey Nicolay via nobe-l 
>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I signed up to be an online tutor with tutor.com.  The signup process 
>> was pretty accessible until it came time for the mock tutoring 
>> session.  They use their own classroom which is completely unusable 
>> with any screen reader.  I contacted the company about it, but they 
>> pretty much said there's nothing they can do to help me.  This was 
>> coming from the tech support staff.  They do not have a version of 
>> the classroom that is compatible with a screen reader and they did 
>> not seem willing to even explore the idea.  As a result, my application had to be put on hold.
>> That is unfair since I've come this far and now I can't tutor just 
>> because of an inaccessible website.  I'm pretty sure the company is 
>> in violation of 508.  Am I correct? I am considering writing a letter 
>> to the president of the company letting him know that their 
>> organization is violating several disability laws.  Therefore, I am 
>> posting this message because I am hoping you all can help me with the 
>> content of the letter.  I want to make sure my voice is heard, but I 
>> also don't want to get in their face about it and come off as 
>> sounding rude.  Therefore, how would you suggest I word the letter? I 
>> thought I could tutor part-time in addition to another job since I really enjoy it.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Kelsey Nicolay
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 18:50:31 2015
From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:50:31 +0100
Subject: [nobe-l] New member saying hi
Message-ID: <CAOQ9728jQRKr9Je3EeV6ZLpwq7sbyu-6fZaF8KNRRA4-z0m7CA@mail.gmail.com>

 Hi all,

 Just joined here so thought to say hi to the rest. My name is
Adrijana and I am a blind lady of 35 from Macedonia. I am a teacher of
English and would be glad to make some friends and communicate with
others by email and skype. If you or others you know would like to
email me, please do so at:
adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com



From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 18:57:05 2015
From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:57:05 +0100
Subject: [nobe-l] Magazine for blind penpals
Message-ID: <CAOQ972-90FgVL--Wi+yp7xB3bGPWqv-XcTLUu8L8p2vyABn3wA@mail.gmail.com>

 Hi all,

 If you or others would like to join a free, electronic, email monthly
magazine for blind penpals, feel free to email me at:
adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com

It has about 900 blind subscribers from all over the world and I do my
best to let as many people as possible about it. Feel free to also
spread the word.

 Adrijana



From adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 18:57:52 2015
From: adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com (adrijana prokopenko)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:57:52 +0100
Subject: [nobe-l] Regarding help with blindness skills
Message-ID: <CAOQ9728uUGQsPHSY_JVDVnHt8=3N4Gh-ptfrotO3BREpUrNHLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

 I was wondering if anyone here or others you may know had some
experiences teaching blindness skills to blind people in other
countries. In this country of Macedonia, we are not doing so well in
this regard and I find it hard to find the right kind of help
regarding mastering them. If you wish to contact me on this or know of
others that do, my email is:
adrijana.prokopenko at gmail.com

Any help would be appreciated.

Adrijana



From kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 03:30:16 2015
From: kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com (Kelsey Nicolay)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:30:16 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
Message-ID: <CAMykK8Rqocrx3KumHPc85edv_-8w7qObnQMKwGi9tsXywa29yQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I drafted a letter to send to the President of the online tutoring
company I posted about in my last post. I will copy and paste it below
this email. Please take a look at it and let me know what I could do
to make it clearer.
Thank you,
Kelsey Nicolay
Kelsey Nicolay
989 Oakbrooke Drive, Medina, Ohio, 44256
330-441-2442
Kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com

Jauuary 29, 2015

Mrs. Amanda Ginsberg
President and C
EO
Tutor.com
555 West 18th Street, New York, New York, 10011

Dear Ms. Ginsberg,

	I am very interested in joining your team as an online tutor. I have
experience tutoring elementary reading. As a result, I feel I would be
a good fit in your organization.

	Due to my vision impairment, I use a screen reader which reads the
information on the screen aloud. This allows me to access the computer
independently. Due to the nature of the software, I am only able to
access certain features of the site. However, I am having difficulty
accessing the visual aspects of the classroom software. Therefore, I
would like to discuss alternative ways in which I could still be a
part of the tutoring team. Please call or email me to discuss this. I
look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely Yours,


Kelsey Nicolay



From sarah at sarahaclark.com  Fri Jan 30 03:55:35 2015
From: sarah at sarahaclark.com (Sarah Clark)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:55:35 -0800
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
In-Reply-To: <CAMykK8Rqocrx3KumHPc85edv_-8w7qObnQMKwGi9tsXywa29yQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMykK8Rqocrx3KumHPc85edv_-8w7qObnQMKwGi9tsXywa29yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F4FD29D6C6074378B948ECA15555C194@MacBook>

Kelsey,
I would be careful posting your home address and phone number on a public 
email list. It is open to everyone as well as the search engines, so it 
would be easy for anyone to find you with a quick Google search.

Also, don't forget to spell check.

Sarah

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelsey Nicolay via nobe-l" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "nobe-l" <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:30 PM
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring


> Hello,
> I drafted a letter to send to the President of the online tutoring
> company I posted about in my last post. I will copy and paste it below
> this email. Please take a look at it and let me know what I could do
> to make it clearer.
> Thank you,
> Kelsey Nicolay
> Kelsey Nicolay
> 989 Oakbrooke Drive, Medina, Ohio, 44256
> 330-441-2442
> Kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com
>
> Jauuary 29, 2015
>
> Mrs. Amanda Ginsberg
> President and C
> EO
> Tutor.com
> 555 West 18th Street, New York, New York, 10011
>
> Dear Ms. Ginsberg,
>
> I am very interested in joining your team as an online tutor. I have
> experience tutoring elementary reading. As a result, I feel I would be
> a good fit in your organization.
>
> Due to my vision impairment, I use a screen reader which reads the
> information on the screen aloud. This allows me to access the computer
> independently. Due to the nature of the software, I am only able to
> access certain features of the site. However, I am having difficulty
> accessing the visual aspects of the classroom software. Therefore, I
> would like to discuss alternative ways in which I could still be a
> part of the tutoring team. Please call or email me to discuss this. I
> look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
>
> Kelsey Nicolay
>
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From NMPBRAT at aol.com  Fri Jan 30 04:03:43 2015
From: NMPBRAT at aol.com (NMPBRAT at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:03:43 -0500
Subject: [nobe-l] online tutoring
Message-ID: <1d057.2c5a0cb8.41fc5c9f@aol.com>

Kelsey,
Two quick things I noticed about the letter.  
1) IN the address heading, you have "Mrs." and in the greeting you have  
"Ms.".  You will want to stick to one or the other.  
2) I would change the closing to something other than "Sincerely  yours".  
I feel that is one you would use with someone you know  better.  I would 
make it more formal.  Even something like "Thank you"  or "Appreciatively" or 
"Professionally".  
 
Just some thoughts!
Nicole
 
 
In a message dated 1/29/2015 10:30:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
nobe-l at nfbnet.org writes:

Hello,
I drafted a letter to send to the President of the online  tutoring
company I posted about in my last post. I will copy and paste it  below
this email. Please take a look at it and let me know what I could  do
to make it clearer.
Thank you,
Kelsey Nicolay
Kelsey  Nicolay
989 Oakbrooke Drive, Medina, Ohio,  44256
330-441-2442
Kelseynicolay1989 at gmail.com

Jauuary 29,  2015

Mrs. Amanda Ginsberg
President and C
EO
Tutor.com
555  West 18th Street, New York, New York, 10011

Dear Ms.  Ginsberg,

I am very interested in joining your team as an  online tutor. I have
experience tutoring elementary reading. As a result, I  feel I would be
a good fit in your organization.

Due  to my vision impairment, I use a screen reader which reads the
information  on the screen aloud. This allows me to access the computer
independently.  Due to the nature of the software, I am only able to
access certain  features of the site. However, I am having difficulty
accessing the visual  aspects of the classroom software. Therefore, I
would like to discuss  alternative ways in which I could still be a
part of the tutoring team.  Please call or email me to discuss this. I
look forward to hearing from  you.

Sincerely Yours,


Kelsey  Nicolay

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