From cane.travel at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 00:31:16 2020
From: cane.travel at gmail.com (Denise Mackenstadt)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:31:16 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] August Meeting
Message-ID: <B1CDD35C-ABD6-4FED-A053-20E2E21E15F1@gmail.com>

The Clallam County National Federation of the Blind will not be holding the August meeting.  As long as the county stays in Phase 2 it would not be in the best interests to gather. We need to honor the health and well being of our members.  We will take it month by month.  If you have any questions or concerns contact Gary Mackenstadt at 360-683-1263 or email at cane.travel at gmail.com <mailto:cane.travel at gmail.com>.  All of you stay safe.

From mjc59 at comcast.net  Sat Aug  8 01:46:53 2020
From: mjc59 at comcast.net (Marci Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:46:53 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Fwd: Invitation for board meeting
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The National Federation of the Blind of Washington Will hold its monthly board meeting this Sunday, August 9, beginning at 7 PM Pacific. It?s an open meeting so all are invited to attend.

Marci



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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kris Colcock <kris at colcock.com>
> Date: June 13, 2020 at 9:21:40 AM PDT
> To: Marci Carpenter <Mjc59 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Invitation for board meeting
> 
> ?Marci Carpenter is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
> 
> Topic: NFBW State Board Meeting
> Time: Jun 14, 2020 07:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>        Every month on the Second Sun, 9 occurrence(s)
>        Jun 14, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Jul 12, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Aug 9, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Sep 13, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Oct 11, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Nov 8, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Dec 13, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Jan 10, 2021 07:00 PM
>        Feb 14, 2021 07:00 PM
> Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to
> your calendar system.
> Monthly: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/vJAtd--qrjsiBidlSoxgmiYwwJuTcMOUAw/ics?icsToken=98tyKuisrjssGNSVuF_9c7ItW8H8bPHyi1NHrq9ukwfiDilqdRTcI9ZBH51KMc-B
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/140062008?pwd=Q2lJZEtpT0xIczRicys1Z2xpSmU4QT09
> 
> Meeting ID: 140 062 008
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> One tap mobile
> +12532158782,,140062008#,,1#,063094# US (Tacoma)
> +13462487799,,140062008#,,1#,063094# US (Houston)
> 
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From sonshines59 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 03:21:00 2020
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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
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From bjprows at comcast.net  Sat Aug  8 19:10:51 2020
From: bjprows at comcast.net (Bennett Prows)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 12:10:51 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Fwd: Invitation for board meeting
In-Reply-To: <FEB5F868-A239-4DB7-9DAA-42DFBE09887A@comcast.net>
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 <FEB5F868-A239-4DB7-9DAA-42DFBE09887A@comcast.net>
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Hi Listers,

I understand that since these board meetings are recurring, the Zoom information from the June one still is applicable, and will be for every month?s meeting until changed. This is why, Marci and Kris for that matter, and Judy too, (for the At Large Chapter)  can put out the reminder messages, and leave the info for accessing the meeting from the earlier ones.

Just FYI.

Enjoy the weekend.

/s/

Bennett Prows
????????????? ??

From: Marci Carpenter via NFBWATlk
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 6:47 PM
To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List' List'
Cc: Marci Carpenter
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Fwd: Invitation for board meeting

The National Federation of the Blind of Washington Will hold its monthly board meeting this Sunday, August 9, beginning at 7 PM Pacific. It?s an open meeting so all are invited to attend.

Marci



Sent from Marci's iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kris Colcock <kris at colcock.com>
> Date: June 13, 2020 at 9:21:40 AM PDT
> To: Marci Carpenter <Mjc59 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Invitation for board meeting
> 
> ?Marci Carpenter is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
> 
> Topic: NFBW State Board Meeting
> Time: Jun 14, 2020 07:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>        Every month on the Second Sun, 9 occurrence(s)
>        Jun 14, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Jul 12, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Aug 9, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Sep 13, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Oct 11, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Nov 8, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Dec 13, 2020 07:00 PM
>        Jan 10, 2021 07:00 PM
>        Feb 14, 2021 07:00 PM
> Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to
> your calendar system.
> Monthly: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/vJAtd--qrjsiBidlSoxgmiYwwJuTcMOUAw/ics?icsToken=98tyKuisrjssGNSVuF_9c7ItW8H8bPHyi1NHrq9ukwfiDilqdRTcI9ZBH51KMc-B
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/140062008?pwd=Q2lJZEtpT0xIczRicys1Z2xpSmU4QT09
> 
> Meeting ID: 140 062 008
> Password: 063094
> One tap mobile
> +12532158782,,140062008#,,1#,063094# US (Tacoma)
> +13462487799,,140062008#,,1#,063094# US (Houston)
> 
> Dial by your location
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>        +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
>        +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>        +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
>        +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
>        +1 929 205 6099 US (New York)
> Meeting ID: 140 062 008
> Password: 063094
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From mjc59 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 10 17:14:44 2020
From: mjc59 at comcast.net (Marci Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:14:44 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Fwd: Join us! WTBBL Patron Book Club August 26
References: <4cc76b29ebd6084a20161a5f6.c2f7aa84a2.20200810165911.82ca3b0aa4.38f9ece8@mail2.wdc01.mcdlv.net>
Message-ID: <D540E124-39B0-4EBD-86CD-74F95C521A84@comcast.net>



Sent from Marci's iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Danielle Miller <danielle.miller at sos.wa.gov>
> Date: August 10, 2020 at 10:00:41 AM PDT
> To: MJC59 at comcast.net
> Subject: Join us! WTBBL Patron Book Club August 26
> Reply-To: Danielle Miller <danielle.miller at sos.wa.gov>
> 
> ?
> 
> WTBBL's Patron Book Club
>  
> The Washington Talking Book & Braille Library is launching a statewide, quarterly patron book club and invite you to join us! The WTBBL Patron Book Club will be a fun, entertaining and lively discussion of a book by a Northwest author or with Northwest interest. The titles we read will be available in audio and braille, both on BARD.
>  
> The first meeting of the book club will be Wednesday, Aug. 26, from 2 to 3 p.m. Patrons can participate by telephone using our free conference-call service. You can join the discussion by calling (800) 920- 7487, participant code 39258344#.
>  
> Our first book will be Trial by fury by J.A. Jance (DBC 504/BRC 708). About the book: Revisit Seattle circa 1985 in this police procedural mystery. The body, lying naked and dead in a dumpster, was a shock. But even more shocking was the way in which the victim died. The victim, a popular basketball coach, was lynched, leaving behind a pregnant wife with a dangerous secret. As homicide detective J.P. Beaumont and his partner look into the murder and sordid doings at Mercer Island High School, the mystery deepens. Extramarital affairs, threats, a wife who has no alibi? it all adds up to the wrong kind of love and the worst kind of justice.
>  
> Let us know if you would like to participate so we can contact you with any updates or schedule changes. You can request a copy of the book or let us know you will be joining us by calling (800) 542- 0866 or emailing wtbbl at sos.wa.gov. We look forward to talking about books with you!
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From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV  Wed Aug 12 02:17:30 2020
From: Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV (Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR))
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 02:17:30 +0000
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
Message-ID: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>

All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47 years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many more years together.

Be safe, be well, and you are the best.

/s/

Bennett




From sonshines59 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 03:30:09 2020
From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (sonshines59 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 20:30:09 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
In-Reply-To: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <00e701d67058$e2066070$a6132150$@gmail.com>

Oh this is fantastic!

Thanks for posting, Ben, and happy anniversary Denise and Gary!

Judy


-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett
(HHS/OCR) via NFBWATlk
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:18 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) <Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!

All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47
years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many
more years together.

Be safe, be well, and you are the best.

/s/

Bennett



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From kkipp123 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 04:05:45 2020
From: kkipp123 at gmail.com (Kaye Kipp)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:05:45 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
In-Reply-To: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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Wow!  Happy anniversary Garry and Denise.

Kaye

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Prows,
Bennett (HHS/OCR) via NFBWATlk
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:18 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) <Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!

All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47
years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many
more years together.

Be safe, be well, and you are the best.

/s/

Bennett



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From maurice at maurice-amines.com  Wed Aug 12 04:52:06 2020
From: maurice at maurice-amines.com (maurice mines)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:52:06 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
In-Reply-To: <00e701d67058$e2066070$a6132150$@gmail.com>
References: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
 <00e701d67058$e2066070$a6132150$@gmail.com>
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hello, I too would like to wish Gary and Denise a happy anniversary 
small memories are well two of them. Gary and the go find that student 
many moons ago that student is still a friend I called that now long ago 
student and mentioned to them that it was their anniversary and so was 
doing with that person times and in the other memories has to do with 
all delivery of food when one really had the wrong thing was the flu but 
he moons ago and the many conversations Gary and Denise may you have 
many more anniversaries from your friend Maurice be well everyone

On 8/11/2020 8:30 PM, sonshines59--- via NFBWATlk wrote:
> Oh this is fantastic!
>
> Thanks for posting, Ben, and happy anniversary Denise and Gary!
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett
> (HHS/OCR) via NFBWATlk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:18 PM
> To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) <Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV>
> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
>
> All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47
> years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many
> more years together.
>
> Be safe, be well, and you are the best.
>
> /s/
>
> Bennett
>
>
>
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Division Email: board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org 
Live the life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind 
Division, a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a 
community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of 
the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live 
the lives they want.

From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 05:44:51 2020
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 22:44:51 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
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Happy anniversary from Betty and Me.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett
(HHS/OCR) via NFBWATlk
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:18 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) <Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!

All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47
years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many
more years together.

Be safe, be well, and you are the best.

/s/

Bennett



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From michaeldforzano at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 00:37:02 2020
From: michaeldforzano at gmail.com (Michael Forzano)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 20:37:02 -0400
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Greater Seattle Chapter Meeting this Saturday
Message-ID: <797F6F53-BD8C-4863-9CF3-0988C8219093@gmail.com>



Hi All,


The Greater Seattle Chapter will meet this Saturday at 10:00AM via Zoom. We will discuss our experiences with the recent national convention as well as updates on transit, voting, and other issues affecting blind people in Seattle and Washington state. We hope you can join us. The Zoom information is below.


Mike Forzano, PresidentNFB Greater Seattle Chapter

Topic: NFBW Seattle Chapter Meeting
Time: Aug 15, 2020 10:00 AM Pacific Time(US and Canada)
       Every month on the Third Sat, until Jan 16, 2021, 6 occurrence(s)
       Aug 15, 2020 10:00 AM
       Sep 19, 2020 10:00 AM
       Oct 17, 2020 10:00 AM
       Nov 21, 2020 10:00 AM
       Dec 19, 2020 10:00 AM
       Jan 16, 2021 10:00 AM
Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to
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Join Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 883 8665 9625
Passcode: 573725
One tap mobile
+12532158782,,88386659625#,,,,,,0#,,573725# US (Tacoma)
+16699006833,,88386659625#,,,,,,0#,,573725# US (San Jose)

Dial by your location
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Meeting ID: 883 8665 9625
Passcode: 573725
Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kpWKhwB6d


From lauren7877 at outlook.com  Thu Aug 13 03:29:14 2020
From: lauren7877 at outlook.com (Lauren Merryfield)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 03:29:14 +0000
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
In-Reply-To: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi,
Happy anniversary, Denise and Gary!  That is quite a long time! I will never reach that number.  
Blessings!
Lauren

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) via NFBWATlk
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:18 PM
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Cc: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) <Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!

All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47 years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many more years together.

Be safe, be well, and you are the best.

/s/

Bennett



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From albertsanchez at suddenlink.net  Thu Aug 13 13:26:54 2020
From: albertsanchez at suddenlink.net (Albert Sanchez)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:26:54 -0400
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Happy Anniversary!
In-Reply-To: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BY5PR09MB48813E54D1373B5ADC5CC6FDFC420@BY5PR09MB4881.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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HERE! HERE!

Albert and Gerrie Sanchez

On 8/11/2020 10:17 PM, Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) via NFBWATlk wrote:
> All the best to Denise and Gary Mackenstadt. The best of anniversaries. 47 years together is almost as old as I am! (grin.) Hope you both have many more years together.
>
> Be safe, be well, and you are the best.
>
> /s/
>
> Bennett
>
>
>
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From cane.travel at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 17:06:47 2020
From: cane.travel at gmail.com (Denise Mackenstadt)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:06:47 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Thank you
Message-ID: <F2358AD4-147E-46B6-97CE-689FA24C0BEF@gmail.com>

Thank you to everyone who wished us well on our anniversary  We are appreciative of all the friends and NFB family we have.  You are all really great. 

Gary and Denise Mackenstadt

From mamamacbear at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 02:34:24 2020
From: mamamacbear at gmail.com (Betty Fitzpatrick)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:34:24 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
In-Reply-To: <000f4242.2c16bbd5681918bf@infraware.co.kr>
References: <000f4242.2c16bbd5681918bf@infraware.co.kr>
Message-ID: <01a601d671e3$6d4101a0$47c304e0$@gmail.com>

Zoom says that this meeting i.d. is not valid.

 

From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NFBWATlk
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:37 PM
To: nfbwa talk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice

 

?Hello Everyone,

This is a meeting reminder of the NFBWA at large chapter.

The meeting starts at 8:00 PM, to end at 9:00 PM, August 13 and the second Thursday of each month.

Feel free to write back with any questions, and we look forward to having anyone who would like to join us.


Aug. 13, 2020 08:00 PM
Sep. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
Oct. 8, 2020 08:00 PM
Nov. 12, 2020 08:00 PM
Dec. 10, 2020 08:00 PM


Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8717798063?pwd=aFplR2FHM3EvdVU3dlVmQkFTZzRoUT09

Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
Password: 730798

One tap mobile
+125321587821,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (Tacoma)
+166990068331,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (San Jose)
If you use a traditional phone:
Dial by your location
+1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
Password: 730798
Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kcpmrp2kw



Judy
sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris


From cane.travel at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 02:54:16 2020
From: cane.travel at gmail.com (Denise Mackenstadt)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:54:16 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
In-Reply-To: <01a601d671e3$6d4101a0$47c304e0$@gmail.com>
References: <000f4242.2c16bbd5681918bf@infraware.co.kr>
 <01a601d671e3$6d4101a0$47c304e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F9542B7-0FC5-4C5B-B258-A3B7A53DDB41@gmail.com>

I had the same problem.  Meeting ID invalid.  Any ideas?

Denise Mackenstadt

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Betty Fitzpatrick via NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Zoom says that this meeting i.d. is not valid.
> 
> 
> 
> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NFBWATlk
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:37 PM
> To: nfbwa talk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
> 
> 
> 
> ?Hello Everyone,
> 
> This is a meeting reminder of the NFBWA at large chapter.
> 
> The meeting starts at 8:00 PM, to end at 9:00 PM, August 13 and the second Thursday of each month.
> 
> Feel free to write back with any questions, and we look forward to having anyone who would like to join us.
> 
> 
> Aug. 13, 2020 08:00 PM
> Sep. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
> Oct. 8, 2020 08:00 PM
> Nov. 12, 2020 08:00 PM
> Dec. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
> 
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8717798063?pwd=aFplR2FHM3EvdVU3dlVmQkFTZzRoUT09
> 
> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
> Password: 730798
> 
> One tap mobile
> +125321587821,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (Tacoma)
> +166990068331,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (San Jose)
> If you use a traditional phone:
> Dial by your location
> +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
> 
> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
> Password: 730798
> Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kcpmrp2kw
> 
> 
> 
> Judy
> sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NFBWATlk mailing list
> NFBWATlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbwatlk_nfbnet.org
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From tishgifts at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 03:02:00 2020
From: tishgifts at gmail.com (Kris)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:02:00 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
In-Reply-To: <9F9542B7-0FC5-4C5B-B258-A3B7A53DDB41@gmail.com>
References: <9F9542B7-0FC5-4C5B-B258-A3B7A53DDB41@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <188377E9-7006-4F4A-8614-45A8C9AFC451@gmail.com>

Call in f rpossibli

?To succeed  you have to believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a Reality.?
Dame Anita Roddick
Founder of The Body Shop
www.thebodyshopathome-USA.com/kriscolcock

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Denise Mackenstadt via NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I had the same problem.  Meeting ID invalid.  Any ideas?
> 
> Denise Mackenstadt
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Betty Fitzpatrick via NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Zoom says that this meeting i.d. is not valid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones via NFBWATlk
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:37 PM
>> To: nfbwa talk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> This is a meeting reminder of the NFBWA at large chapter.
>> 
>> The meeting starts at 8:00 PM, to end at 9:00 PM, August 13 and the second Thursday of each month.
>> 
>> Feel free to write back with any questions, and we look forward to having anyone who would like to join us.
>> 
>> 
>> Aug. 13, 2020 08:00 PM
>> Sep. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
>> Oct. 8, 2020 08:00 PM
>> Nov. 12, 2020 08:00 PM
>> Dec. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8717798063?pwd=aFplR2FHM3EvdVU3dlVmQkFTZzRoUT09
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
>> Password: 730798
>> 
>> One tap mobile
>> +125321587821,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (Tacoma)
>> +166990068331,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (San Jose)
>> If you use a traditional phone:
>> Dial by your location
>> +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
>> +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
>> 
>> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
>> Password: 730798
>> Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kcpmrp2kw
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Judy
>> sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NFBWATlk mailing list
>> NFBWATlk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbwatlk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBWATlk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbwatlk_nfbnet.org/cane.travel%40gmail.com
> 
> 
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From lfitz50 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 03:02:32 2020
From: lfitz50 at gmail.com (Les Fitzpatrick)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:02:32 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
In-Reply-To: <9F9542B7-0FC5-4C5B-B258-A3B7A53DDB41@gmail.com>
References: <000f4242.2c16bbd5681918bf@infraware.co.kr>
 <01a601d671e3$6d4101a0$47c304e0$@gmail.com>
 <9F9542B7-0FC5-4C5B-B258-A3B7A53DDB41@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018101d671e7$5adec020$109c4060$@gmail.com>

The only thing I know to do is put in the meeting id and password but most likely that won't work either because of the id being invalid. We tried.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Denise Mackenstadt via NFBWATlk
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:54 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Denise Mackenstadt <cane.travel at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice

I had the same problem.  Meeting ID invalid.  Any ideas?

Denise Mackenstadt

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Betty Fitzpatrick via NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Zoom says that this meeting i.d. is not valid.
> 
> 
> 
> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones 
> via NFBWATlk
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:37 PM
> To: nfbwa talk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
> 
> 
> 
> ?Hello Everyone,
> 
> This is a meeting reminder of the NFBWA at large chapter.
> 
> The meeting starts at 8:00 PM, to end at 9:00 PM, August 13 and the second Thursday of each month.
> 
> Feel free to write back with any questions, and we look forward to having anyone who would like to join us.
> 
> 
> Aug. 13, 2020 08:00 PM
> Sep. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
> Oct. 8, 2020 08:00 PM
> Nov. 12, 2020 08:00 PM
> Dec. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
> 
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8717798063?pwd=aFplR2FHM3EvdVU3dlVmQkFTZzRoU
> T09
> 
> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
> Password: 730798
> 
> One tap mobile
> +125321587821,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (Tacoma) 
> +166990068331,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (San Jose)
> If you use a traditional phone:
> Dial by your location
> +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
> 
> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
> Password: 730798
> Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kcpmrp2kw
> 
> 
> 
> Judy
> sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NFBWATlk at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBWATlk:
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From sonshines59 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 03:10:18 2020
From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (sonshines59 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:10:18 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
In-Reply-To: <018101d671e7$5adec020$109c4060$@gmail.com>
References: <000f4242.2c16bbd5681918bf@infraware.co.kr>
 <01a601d671e3$6d4101a0$47c304e0$@gmail.com>
 <9F9542B7-0FC5-4C5B-B258-A3B7A53DDB41@gmail.com>
 <018101d671e7$5adec020$109c4060$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001001d671e8$70860130$51920390$@gmail.com>

Hi, Folks,

So sorry about this.  I'm borrowing Chris' computer.

I used the meeting ID in the minutes in a test and was able to get there, so not sure what happened,  I have the minutes on my Polaris so will send that section over to you all again.

Judy


-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Les Fitzpatrick via NFBWATlk
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 8:03 PM
To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List' <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice

The only thing I know to do is put in the meeting id and password but most likely that won't work either because of the id being invalid. We tried.

Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
Ham call K5FPT

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Denise Mackenstadt via NFBWATlk
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:54 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Denise Mackenstadt <cane.travel at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice

I had the same problem.  Meeting ID invalid.  Any ideas?

Denise Mackenstadt

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Betty Fitzpatrick via NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Zoom says that this meeting i.d. is not valid.
> 
> 
> 
> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones 
> via NFBWATlk
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:37 PM
> To: nfbwa talk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Chapter At Large Meeting Notice
> 
> 
> 
> ?Hello Everyone,
> 
> This is a meeting reminder of the NFBWA at large chapter.
> 
> The meeting starts at 8:00 PM, to end at 9:00 PM, August 13 and the second Thursday of each month.
> 
> Feel free to write back with any questions, and we look forward to having anyone who would like to join us.
> 
> 
> Aug. 13, 2020 08:00 PM
> Sep. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
> Oct. 8, 2020 08:00 PM
> Nov. 12, 2020 08:00 PM
> Dec. 10, 2020 08:00 PM
> 
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8717798063?pwd=aFplR2FHM3EvdVU3dlVmQkFTZzRoU
> T09
> 
> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
> Password: 730798
> 
> One tap mobile
> +125321587821,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (Tacoma) 
> +166990068331,87197798063#eaeablea#eablegcjgih# US (San Jose)
> If you use a traditional phone:
> Dial by your location
> +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
> 
> Meeting ID: 871 9779 8063
> Password: 730798
> Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kcpmrp2kw
> 
> 
> 
> Judy
> sent from the HIMS Android BrailleSense Polaris
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sonshines59 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 03:18:06 2020
From: sonshines59 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?SnVkeSBKb25lcw==?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NFBWATlk] Zoom Meeting link correction.
Message-ID: <000f4242.41a59b2517f7adb1@infraware.co.kr>

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From portillo.jim at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 03:03:36 2020
From: portillo.jim at gmail.com (Jim Portillo)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 20:03:36 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] For tomorrow's discussion on voting
Message-ID: <001701d672b0$ab81a820$0284f860$@gmail.com>

Hello again,

 

Marci will be discussing some things regarding voting and elections during
tomorrow's Seattle chapter meeting.  Part of what will be mentioned dealt
with an issue Corey Grandstaff recently encountered.

It would be good if those attending the meeting could read this in advance
and come prepared with questions.  It's a fairly long post, which is why
we're encouraging you to read it for yourselves.

Thanks.

Jim

>From Corey:

Long post warning. I normally am not a person who complains on social media
or uses social media as a platform to call out entities who do not treat me
fairly as a blind person: however, with the controversy over mail in
ballots, I have to tell my most recent voting story. Washington has been
doing mail in ballots as long as I can remember since I moved here in 2012.
Now I trust my wife, but in previous elections, I have two options: allow
her or another person to mark my mail-in ballot or go to the elections
office by appointment only to vote using an accessible voting machine.
Having someone else mark my ballot is not private voting and with concerns
of contracting covid, I sure don't want to have to go to the election
office. Needless to say, I was excited when I heard there was an online
voting option. The actual online ballot was accessible, that was a plus. But
the process to submit the ballot was not. The process is this: print out the
ballot, fill out a secrecy cover sheet and a declaration and signature
sheet, cut out something from an envelope cut-out sheet, tape it onto a
regular envelope, figure out where the signature line is for the envelope,
and then buy postage to mail in my ballot. Here are my issues: as a blind
voter I should not have to do anything extra than my sighted counterparts:
fill out the ballot, sign the envelope, put in the envelope, and mail it for
free. Now I can afford a stamp no problem, but if my sighted voters don't
have to pay, neither should I. And we have not even discussed the
interactions I have had with the Clark County Elections Office, one of which
went something like this: me, "I would like to speak with the person who
handles accessible online voting for blind people," the representative, "oh
you're blind, your only option is to come to our office and vote by
appointment only," me, "Actually that is not true, there is accessible
online voting available for people who are blind which is why I would like
to talk to the person who handles online accessible voting," representative,
"well sir, I don't think you know what you are talking about however I will
transfer you." Hello, I am the blind person in the situation I think I know
if I have the option to vote online or not. When I did finally get to talk
to the accessible voting coordinator, I was told I have two options to mail
in the marked ballot I completed online: mail it in using the process as
described earlier with cutting out the envelope or choose not to follow the
process and mail my online ballot in as my sighted counterparts do. However,
if I choose the second option my ballot will be flagged as it has to be
processed separately by hand and in the exact words of this accessibility
coordinator , "this means it may sit on someone's desk until they have time
to hand process your ballot." So not only may my ballot not get counted, it
may be lost, or not processed at all. When I asked can I go online to make
sure it was processed, the response was: "well we are finding a glitch in
the system where if you check to make sure your ballot was processed, it may
delete your already processed ballot." I don't understand, I can pay my
bills online, I can do any banking I want online, I can manage my
investments and retirement benefits online, I can shop online, and now I can
fill out the ballot online, but I can't submit it online because it is to
"insecure." Now I believe in voting, but if I can do all these other things
online and these companies have figured out how to handle these security
issues, the elections department can't, I don't understand. And mine is just
one experience, whether its online voting or mail-in ballots, it should be
accessible to all. This means finding a solution so I can find the signature
line on my ballot envelope (hey Oregon figured it out, a hole punched at
each end of the signature line), not having to do separate forms or pay for
my ballot to be mailed in a separate envelope, having my ballot processed at
the same rate and in the same way as my sighted counterparts have there's,
and oh yeah, having election officials who actually know what they are
talking about when they receive a call from a blind person who wants to vote
in a private and accessible fashion. Wait, one more thing, lets make it even
easier, allow everyone to vote online, submit online, and then it would also
be easier to count online. Really you can't figure out the security issues.
That's bullshit, its just another example of putting up obstacles to
allowing people to vote privately and safely from their homes.

 


From gabias at telus.net  Mon Aug 17 16:35:20 2020
From: gabias at telus.net (Mary Ellen)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:35:20 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] we can help one another make streets safer
Message-ID: <00d901d674b4$6649dba0$32dd92e0$@telus.net>

The city of Victoria, British Columbia, has created bike lanes that are
physically set apart from sidewalks and automobile traffic.  This would be a
good thing, except that pedestrians are now forced to cross these bike lanes
in the middle of the block in order to board or leave a bus.  As you can
imagine, pedestrians cannot hear bicycles coming and cyclists aren't
expecting pedestrians to cross at random times to reach the bus stop.  The
result is dangerous for all.

 

The Canadian Federation of the Blind is in the midst of a human rights
tribunal case to force the city to make safety changes.  So far, all the
city has proposed is to put an audible pedestrian signal and a flashing
yellow light at these crosswalks.  There is no way for a pedestrian to
determine when it is safe to cross.  The APS lets the pedestrian know the
state of the flashing yellow light,, but cyclists either stop or they don't.
Because it's so noisy and because bicycles are so quiet, we're forced to
trust the reliability and situational awareness of cyclists rather than our
own judgment.

 

Our costs for this case are high.  We have launched a crowd funding
campaign.  Every little bit helps.  If you can support us, both with funding
and with supportive comments, please do.  If you can share this with your
networks, please do that, too.

 

I understand that similarly bad designs are proliferating across the
country, including in Seattle.  Victoria has  ignored its own Accessibility
advisory committee; they have ignored public requests for a more reasonable
design.  We need to make sure that the needs of blind pedestrians are acted
upon whenever bike lanes are built.  Cyclists and blind pedestrians can be
allies; we all need safe streets.

 

To help, share this request with your networks and go to:

 

https://www.canadahelps.org/en/pages/help-with-inaccessible-bike-lane-design
/


From b.butterfly at comcast.net  Tue Aug 18 14:03:51 2020
From: b.butterfly at comcast.net (Becky Frankeberger)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:03:51 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] we can help one another make streets safer
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I forget what they are called but they are little doors a blind person can
hit to close off the bike lanes, yet these little doors open back up when
the blind person passes through. Would an idea similar help make all feel
more secure? Bike riders can just lay down their bikes if they are to close
as a blind person, an elderly person, a person using a walker, a support
cane, a guide dog, a long white cane, a person pushing a grocery cart,
pulling a troly, a delivery person pushing whatever they push to get cargo
across streets etc.

Are power chair users permitted in bike lanes? Some of those people
practically fly way above what should be permitted on sidewalks.

Becky  

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From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Ellen via
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:35 AM
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Cc: Mary Ellen <gabias at telus.net>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] we can help one another make streets safer

The city of Victoria, British Columbia, has created bike lanes that are
physically set apart from sidewalks and automobile traffic.  This would be a
good thing, except that pedestrians are now forced to cross these bike lanes
in the middle of the block in order to board or leave a bus.  As you can
imagine, pedestrians cannot hear bicycles coming and cyclists aren't
expecting pedestrians to cross at random times to reach the bus stop.  The
result is dangerous for all.

 

The Canadian Federation of the Blind is in the midst of a human rights
tribunal case to force the city to make safety changes.  So far, all the
city has proposed is to put an audible pedestrian signal and a flashing
yellow light at these crosswalks.  There is no way for a pedestrian to
determine when it is safe to cross.  The APS lets the pedestrian know the
state of the flashing yellow light,, but cyclists either stop or they don't.
Because it's so noisy and because bicycles are so quiet, we're forced to
trust the reliability and situational awareness of cyclists rather than our
own judgment.

 

Our costs for this case are high.  We have launched a crowd funding
campaign.  Every little bit helps.  If you can support us, both with funding
and with supportive comments, please do.  If you can share this with your
networks, please do that, too.

 

I understand that similarly bad designs are proliferating across the
country, including in Seattle.  Victoria has  ignored its own Accessibility
advisory committee; they have ignored public requests for a more reasonable
design.  We need to make sure that the needs of blind pedestrians are acted
upon whenever bike lanes are built.  Cyclists and blind pedestrians can be
allies; we all need safe streets.

 

To help, share this request with your networks and go to:

 

https://www.canadahelps.org/en/pages/help-with-inaccessible-bike-lane-design
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From gabias at telus.net  Tue Aug 18 16:10:41 2020
From: gabias at telus.net (Mary Ellen)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:10:41 -0700
Subject: [NFBWATlk] we can help one another make streets safer
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Those are good thoughts.  We presented them to the city of Victoria and were
met with an outright refusal.  They were afraid of injuring cyclists.  

The streets are one way streets.  If they had simply put the bike lanes on
the other side, there would have been no conflict.  The city decided that
more businesses friendly to cyclists are on the right side of the street and
that asking cyclists to cross through traffic was too inconvenient.  The
convenience of cyclists had more value than the safety of pedestrians.

It is extremely important that we can demonstrate support for our cause.  A
thousand people giving five dollars with supporting comments is better in
this context than one person giving five thousand dollars.  If you're part
of a couple and were planning to give $10, it would be better if each gave
$5 and made a supporting comment.  That's weird, I know, but that seems to
be how crowd funding works.  The more it can be shown that many people
support keeping everyone in their own lanes, the more likely it is that
cities will keep us in mind as they plan.

Once again, the link is

https://www.canadahelps.org/en/pages/help-with-inaccessible-bike-lane-design
/

-----Original Message-----
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via NFBWATlk
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Cc: Becky Frankeberger <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [NFBWATlk] we can help one another make streets safer

I forget what they are called but they are little doors a blind person can
hit to close off the bike lanes, yet these little doors open back up when
the blind person passes through. Would an idea similar help make all feel
more secure? Bike riders can just lay down their bikes if they are to close
as a blind person, an elderly person, a person using a walker, a support
cane, a guide dog, a long white cane, a person pushing a grocery cart,
pulling a troly, a delivery person pushing whatever they push to get cargo
across streets etc.

Are power chair users permitted in bike lanes? Some of those people
practically fly way above what should be permitted on sidewalks.

Becky  

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mary Ellen via
NFBWATlk
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:35 AM
To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List' <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Mary Ellen <gabias at telus.net>
Subject: [NFBWATlk] we can help one another make streets safer

The city of Victoria, British Columbia, has created bike lanes that are
physically set apart from sidewalks and automobile traffic.  This would be a
good thing, except that pedestrians are now forced to cross these bike lanes
in the middle of the block in order to board or leave a bus.  As you can
imagine, pedestrians cannot hear bicycles coming and cyclists aren't
expecting pedestrians to cross at random times to reach the bus stop.  The
result is dangerous for all.

 

The Canadian Federation of the Blind is in the midst of a human rights
tribunal case to force the city to make safety changes.  So far, all the
city has proposed is to put an audible pedestrian signal and a flashing
yellow light at these crosswalks.  There is no way for a pedestrian to
determine when it is safe to cross.  The APS lets the pedestrian know the
state of the flashing yellow light,, but cyclists either stop or they don't.
Because it's so noisy and because bicycles are so quiet, we're forced to
trust the reliability and situational awareness of cyclists rather than our
own judgment.

 

Our costs for this case are high.  We have launched a crowd funding
campaign.  Every little bit helps.  If you can support us, both with funding
and with supportive comments, please do.  If you can share this with your
networks, please do that, too.

 

I understand that similarly bad designs are proliferating across the
country, including in Seattle.  Victoria has  ignored its own Accessibility
advisory committee; they have ignored public requests for a more reasonable
design.  We need to make sure that the needs of blind pedestrians are acted
upon whenever bike lanes are built.  Cyclists and blind pedestrians can be
allies; we all need safe streets.

 

To help, share this request with your networks and go to:

 

https://www.canadahelps.org/en/pages/help-with-inaccessible-bike-lane-design
/

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