[nfbwatlk] NFB Cane-Related Airlines Incident

Julie Warrington jdwtlc at frontier.com
Thu Mar 26 15:09:12 UTC 2015


We checked the overhead bin, and had we put it in first, that would have 
been fine. It was packed and I would rther have a useable cane at the end of 
my flight than a broken one. I also, usually trabel with a folding cane. 
This was an exception.
To each their own on the battles they choose.
I mean really, if the plane goes down, is the cane really likely to be 
intact?
just saying.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Forzano via nfbwatlk" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Les" <lfitz50 at gmail.com>; "NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List" 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] NFB Cane-Related Airlines Incident


> I'm not sure how to feel about this thread. First off, I agree with
> Arielle that the story seems odd and I don't feel like we have all of
> the facts. I think it's dangerous to jump to conclusions and assume
> something is discrimination without first hearing both sides of the
> story.
>
> Secondly is it really such a big deal that your cane can't be next to
> you by the window? I'm a dog user so am not familiar with the laws
> surrounding this but it doesn't surprise me that this could be viewed
> as a safety concern. Putting it in the overhead is a great idea. I can
> totally understand wanting to know where it is but this idea of almost
> deliberately provoking a confrontation by bringing a long cane and
> refusing to compromise, as some have been implying they would do,
> accomplishes nothing and makes blind people look bad in general.
>
> Mike
>
> On 3/25/15, Les via nfbwatlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Ok I could live with that barely.
>>
>> Les Fitzpatrick
>> Registered Piano Technician
>> Community Resource Coordinator AccessaMed
>> www.accessamed.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbwatlk [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
>> Silverman via nfbwatlk
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:28 PM
>> To: Debby Phillips; NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] NFB Cane-Related Airlines Incident
>>
>> There's a third option people haven't really mentioned. You can put your
>> cane up in the overhead bin. I've done that a few times when either it
>> wouldn't fit by the window or the flight attendant mistakenly thought it
>> wasn't allowed by the window. Putting your cane up overhead pacifies the
>> flight attendants without making you lose access to your cane if you need
>> it. If asked to put it up, I stow it with the flight attendant watching, 
>> or
>> we stow it together, and I make sure it is close to my seat. I explain 
>> that
>> I want to be compliant but I also want to know where my cane is in the
>> event
>> of an emergency.
>> This has always worked fine. Again, it's best to put it by the window, 
>> but
>> in the occasional event that putting it by the window presents a problem,
>> putting it up overhead is a good compromise. Just make sure it's anchored
>> behind another bag so it doesn't fall on your head when you go to take it
>> down.
>> Best, Arielle
>>
>> On 3/25/15, Debby Phillips via nfbwatlk <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Julie, not ragging on you for giving them the cane, but when people do
>>> that it does make it harder for those of us who don't want to give up
>>> our canes.  I'LL gladly give it up if it won't fit between the wall
>>> and the window, but I'm not giving it up if it fits.  It's illegal for
>>> them to ask it, and I'm not giving my cane up.  Hopefully there will
>>> be no incidents the next time ow have to fly Alaska.  Of course, I
>>> still might only have my funky folding cane.  I remember reading
>>> articles in old Braille Monitors about people refusing to give up
>>> their canes and being arrested.  It's kind of like I won't leave a
>>> restaurant when I have my dog just because somebody doesn't know the
>>> law.  People have fought too hard for the rights we have to give up
>>> our canes
>>> and/oor dogs.    Peace,    Debby
>>>
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