[nfbwatlk] Target thinks blindness is a laughing matter:

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Tue Jan 1 23:29:08 CST 2008


The only thing that one can really get 'em on is an ADA Title III 
violation for not reading her the menu.

Personally, I just wouldn't shop at that Target store.

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KAYE KIPP
  To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 8:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] Target thinks blindness is a laughing matter:


  This makes me mad.  I'd splat it all over everywhere and anywhere.

  Kaye
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: <noaprlfoo at aol.com>
  To: <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:50 PM
  Subject: [nfbwatlk] Target thinks blindness is a laughing matter:


  > ????? On Saturday I went into the North gate Target store to do some
  > shopping, and afterward I went to their restaurant to get a bite. I 
asked
  > the woman to please read me the menu as I could not see well enough 
to
  > read it. She looked at me, then up at the menu, and?at back at me. 
She
  > began to laugh very loudly? "Ha Ha Ha". ?I was shocked and I just 
stared
  > at her. When I asked her why she laughed at me she replied? "Well, 
the
  > menu is so big, Why don't you tell me what you want". When I 
repeated,
  > "you laughed at me" , she said?"Not really". I was embarrassed, and
  > shocked, I turned and walked away to find a manager.???
  > ????? Another associate got a manager right away without asking me 
any
  > questions. A young man came over to me "Can I help you?". I told?him 
that
  > one of his associates had laughed at me. He asked me where and how 
it
  > happened. I told him how she laughed and declined to read me the 
menu. His
  > response was "I'm sorry that happened to you, I will have a talk 
with
  > her". I replied " You'll have a talk with her?". "Yes, I will talk 
with
  > her".? I?said "don't you have sensitivity training here?" he replied 
"No
  > we're too cheap". He again assured me that he would have a talk with 
her.
  > When I asked him what that meant, he told me that all he could do 
was talk
  > to her. That he could not be physical with her, could not talk to 
her?in
  > front of others, doc her wages, or shorten her hours, none of which 
I had
  > asked about.?He showed no understanding for the distress I was 
under. I
  > realized that talking?with him would not get me anywhere, nor would 
it
  > affect change. When asked he provided me with!
  > store and corporate contact information, as well as his first name 
and the
  > associates first name. He told me that if I talked "to corporate 
long
  > enough" that I would probably get a gift certificate.?He then said 
"It's
  > to bad I can't talk to her in front of you.....a kind of eye for an 
eye
  > type of thing". I told him it wasn't about that.
  > ???????What I wanted to do was to prevent further incidents and to 
make
  > people aware so that others with disabilities would not be 
embarrassed
  > when asking for basic assistance. I left with the impression that 
Target,
  > or at least the North gate Target, believes that it is alright to 
laugh at
  > reasonable requests?from customers with disabilities and to make 
them?feel
  > they cause trouble and inconvenience. The Target store displays the 
Pizza
  > Hut logo, and serves Pizza Hut products, I wonder how Pizza Hut 
would feel
  > about having it's name associated with the behavior of these Target
  > employees,?do you think I should contact Pizza Hut?as well?. I 
welcome any
  > suggestions or comments on how to pursue this.
  >
  > Kay Burrows, Secretary Seattle chapter???
  > 
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The only thing that one can really get 'em on is an ADA Title III violation for not reading her the menu.
 
Personally, I just wouldn't shop at that Target store.
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:kkipp123 at msn.com KAYE KIPP
To:
mailto:nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 8:11 PM
Subject:
Re: [nfbwatlk] Target thinks blindness is a laughing matter:
This makes me mad.  I'd splat it all over everywhere and anywhere.
Kaye
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From: < mailto:noaprlfoo at aol.com noaprlfoo at aol.com
>
To: < mailto:nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: [nfbwatlk] Target thinks blindness is a laughing matter:
> ????? On Saturday I went into the North gate Target store to do some
> shopping, and afterward I went to their restaurant to get a bite. I asked
> the woman to please read me the menu as I could not see well enough to
> read it. She looked at me, then up at the menu, and?at back at me. She
> began to laugh very loudly? "Ha Ha Ha". ?I was shocked and I just stared
> at her. When I asked her why she laughed at me she replied? "Well, the
> menu is so big, Why don't you tell me what you want". When I repeated,
> "you laughed at me" , she said?"Not really". I was embarrassed, and
> shocked, I turned and walked away to find a manager.???
> ????? Another associate got a manager right away without asking me any
> questions. A young man came over to me "Can I help you?". I told?him that
> one of his associates had laughed at me. He asked me where and how it
> happened. I told him how she laughed and declined to read me the menu. His
> response was "I'm sorry that happened to you, I will have a talk with
> her". I replied " You'll have a talk with her?". "Yes, I will talk with
> her".? I?said "don't you have sensitivity training here?" he replied "No
> we're too cheap". He again assured me that he would have a talk with her.
> When I asked him what that meant, he told me that all he could do was talk
> to her. That he could not be physical with her, could not talk to her?in
> front of others, doc her wages, or shorten her hours, none of which I had
> asked about.?He showed no understanding for the distress I was under. I
> realized that talking?with him would not get me anywhere, nor would it
> affect change. When asked he provided me with!
> store and corporate contact information, as well as his first name and the
> associates first name. He told me that if I talked "to corporate long
> enough" that I would probably get a gift certificate.?He then said "It's
> to bad I can't talk to her in front of you.....a kind of eye for an eye
> type of thing". I told him it wasn't about that.
> ???????What I wanted to do was to prevent further incidents and to make
> people aware so that others with disabilities would not be embarrassed
> when asking for basic assistance. I left with the impression that Target,
> or at least the North gate Target, believes that it is alright to laugh at
> reasonable requests?from customers with disabilities and to make them?feel
> they cause trouble and inconvenience. The Target store displays the Pizza
> Hut logo, and serves Pizza Hut products, I wonder how Pizza Hut would feel
> about having it's name associated with the behavior of these Target
> employees,?do you think I should contact Pizza Hut?as well?. I welcome any
> suggestions or comments on how to pursue this.
>
> Kay Burrows, Secretary Seattle chapter???
> ________________________________________________________________________
> More new features than ever.  Check out the new AOL Mail ! -
> http://webmail.aol.com http://webmail.aol.com
>
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