[nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: TransportationADAAdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sun Mar 25 07:35:09 CST 2007


Bob:

If one is an activist, those "once-a-month" two-hour meetings add up! 
For those who know the Federal leave program, I have *never* ever had 
use-or-lose leave! NFB takes it all up.

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Sellers
  To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: 
TransportationADAAdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007



  Noel,

  In the committees you mentioned I agree probably should mee on a 
weekend,
  since I assume those committees  have members from around the State.
  However, if the meeting is ouof a committee members town, it may mean
  taking time off work to travel to the meeting anyway.
  Some points about the meeting that started this thread. This 
particular
  meeting of the Transportation ADA Advisory is  comprised of 
individuals
  locally. Some employers will allow  time off to attend meeting for 
community
  purposes. Since it is local an employer may allow flex time, so that, 
no
  leave time is required to be taken. This doesn't help much if one is a
  citizen, just wanting to attend the meeting. One must also ask is the
  committee worthwhile enough and ones input valuable enough to use 
leave
  time. The committee may meet twice a month for 2 or 3 months, then 
will meet
  once a month.  Also, in this particular meeting, is the first time it 
has
  met. Therefore the time may be changed to an evening meeting or at 
least
  starting at 5:30 PM.  However, for those of us on the committee it 
makes our
  day a lot longer. But, it is only once a month.

  BVob


  -----Original Message-----
  From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On
  Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:49 AM
  To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation
  ADAAdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007

  The issue of advisory bodies holding their meetings during week days 
is
  significant to me.  Most advisory bodies do meet on weekdays during
  traditional work hours. A couple such relevant examples are the
  Statewide Independent Living council and the Governor's Committee on
  Employment of People with Disabilities. I believe that the Patron
  Advisory Council to there WTBBL also meets on week days during work
  hours, but correct me if I am wrong about that.

  It seems to me that this issue often results in a reduced pool of 
people
  who can serve on these advisory bodies and also narrows the type of
  person who can serve.  There are a few people who can or are willing 
to
  use vacation time but mostly people cannot or will not.  This means 
that
  the pool of potential advisors is disproportionately populated by
  unemployed people or government or nonprofit employees who are allowed
  to use work time for the activity.

  I have always appreciated that DSB and WSSB advisory bodies primarily
  meet on Saturdays.  I hope that practice continues.

  Noel


  -----Original Message-----
  From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
  On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:22 AM
  To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA
  AdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007

  Hey,

  Since I'm on this list, and I have been uttering Mike's sentiments for 
a
  while, I want to jump in and try my hand at explaining.  March 27, 
from
  3 to 5 P.M. is smack dab in the middle of some folks' work days, or 
even
  close to the end.  Attending meetings that are scheduled in the
  afternoon, or morning for that matter can be a problem for those who
  work.

  How's that!

  B. P.

  Bennett Prows, J.D.
  Health Information Privacy Program
  Office for Civil Rights
  Seattle, Washington
  (206) 615-2621
  E-mail:  Bennett.Prows at hhs.gov
  -----Original Message-----
  From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
  On Behalf Of Doug Trimble
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:16 AM
  To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA
  AdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007

  Mike what the heck do you mean?

  Doug Trimble
  Orientation & Mobility Instructor
  Off Campus Work Advisor
  Washington State School for the Blind
  2214 E. 13th Street Vancouver,  WA  98661 office ph. 360-696-6321 #118
  cell:360-909-0833
  -----Original Message-----
  From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
  On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:30 PM
  To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA
  AdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007

  Jesus, mary and Joseph! Doesn't anyone realize that some PWD's 
actually
  work?

  Mike

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Robert Sellers
    To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:51 PM
    Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory
  TeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007



    Here are the details about the meeting time & location.

    Transportation ADA Advisory Team Meeting
    Date:    Tuesday, March 27, 2007
    Time:    3 - 5 p.m.
    Location: Clark County Public Service Center, 1300 Franklin Street,
  6th
    Floor Training Room #679

    Bob sellers

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]

  On
    Behalf Of Doug Trimble
    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:15 AM
    To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
    Subject: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory Team
    InitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007

    FYI,

    Here is some info about the new committee the City of Vancouver is
    setting up.  Bob Sellers President of the NFB of Clark county is our
  rep
    on the committee.  The meetings are open to all.



    Doug Trimble
    Orientation & Mobility Instructor
    Off Campus Work Advisor
    Washington State School for the Blind
    2214 E. 13th Street Vancouver,  WA  98661
    office ph. 360-696-6321 #118
    cell:360-909-0833

    ________________________________

    From: Judy Koch-Smith
    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:12 AM
    To: Doug Trimble; Cheri DeLyria; Peggy Gallagher
    Cc: Janet Barlow
    Subject: FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory Team Initial
  Kick-off
    Meeting - March 27, 2007



    Hi folks.  Just wanted to share the mission statement for this new
    group.  From the address list, it looks like I'm in good company on
  this
    committee!  I will keep you posted on progress and developments, and 
I
    welcome your input once we get this going.



    Judy Koch Smith, Certified O&M Specialist

    Washington State School for the Blind

    Vancouver, WA  98661

    360.696.6321, Extension 192



    ________________________________

    From: Porter, Brooke [mailto:Brooke.Porter at ci.vancouver.wa.us]
    Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:38 PM
    To: Campos, Jennifer; Boulanger, Todd; Bess, Bob; Isely, Charles;
    Thirunagari, Sree; Reule, Andrew; Stewart, Judy; 
danarnold at dsb.wa.gov;
    krisk at arcofclarkcounty.org; Judy Koch-Smith; rwsellers at bpa.gov;
    robertsellers500 at comcast.net; tonysuel at aol.com; jim at darsw.com;
    waltg at c-tran.org; Buck, Tim; Netherda, Dale; Haldeman, Tim;
    sunnyside5 at pacifier.com; Ransom, Matt
    Cc: Heil, Kathy
    Subject: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory Team Initial Kick-off
    Meeting - March 27, 2007



    This is a reminder for next week's initial kick-off meeting of the
    Transportation ADA Advisory Team. Please open the attachment which
    details the goals of this committee.



    Transportation ADA Advisory Team Meeting

    Date:    Tuesday, March 27, 2007

    Time:    3 - 5 p.m.

    Location: Clark County Public Service Center, 1300 Franklin Street,
  6th
    Floor Training Room #679



    Thank you,
    Brooke Porter
    Community Relations Specialist
    Transportation Services
    City of Vancouver
    360-696-8290, ext. 8867




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Bob:
 
If one is an activist, those "once-a-month" two-hour meetings add up! For those who know the Federal leave program, I have *never* ever had use-or-lose leave! NFB takes it all up.
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:robertsellers500 at comcast.net Robert Sellers
To:
mailto:nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
Sent:
Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:07 AM
Subject:
Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: TransportationADAAdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
Noel,
In the committees you mentioned I agree probably should mee on a weekend,
since I assume those committees  have members from around the State.
However, if the meeting is ouof a committee members town, it may mean
taking time off work to travel to the meeting anyway.
Some points about the meeting that started this thread. This particular
meeting of the Transportation ADA Advisory is  comprised of individuals
locally. Some employers will allow  time off to attend meeting for community
purposes. Since it is local an employer may allow flex time, so that, no
leave time is required to be taken. This doesn't help much if one is a
citizen, just wanting to attend the meeting. One must also ask is the
committee worthwhile enough and ones input valuable enough to use leave
time. The committee may meet twice a month for 2 or 3 months, then will meet
once a month.  Also, in this particular meeting, is the first time it has
met. Therefore the time may be changed to an evening meeting or at least
starting at 5:30 PM.  However, for those of us on the committee it makes our
day a lot longer. But, it is only once a month.         
BVob
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:49 AM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation
ADAAdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
The issue of advisory bodies holding their meetings during week days is
significant to me.  Most advisory bodies do meet on weekdays during
traditional work hours. A couple such relevant examples are the
Statewide Independent Living council and the Governor's Committee on
Employment of People with Disabilities. I believe that the Patron
Advisory Council to there WTBBL also meets on week days during work
hours, but correct me if I am wrong about that.
It seems to me that this issue often results in a reduced pool of people
who can serve on these advisory bodies and also narrows the type of
person who can serve.  There are a few people who can or are willing to
use vacation time but mostly people cannot or will not.  This means that
the pool of potential advisors is disproportionately populated by
unemployed people or government or nonprofit employees who are allowed
to use work time for the activity.
I have always appreciated that DSB and WSSB advisory bodies primarily
meet on Saturdays.  I hope that practice continues.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:22 AM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA
AdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
Hey,
Since I'm on this list, and I have been uttering Mike's sentiments for a
while, I want to jump in and try my hand at explaining.  March 27, from
3 to 5 P.M. is smack dab in the middle of some folks' work days, or even
close to the end.  Attending meetings that are scheduled in the
afternoon, or morning for that matter can be a problem for those who
work.
How's that!
B. P.
Bennett Prows, J.D.
Health Information Privacy Program
Office for Civil Rights
Seattle, Washington
(206) 615-2621
E-mail:  mailto:Bennett.Prows at hhs.gov Bennett.Prows at hhs.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Doug Trimble
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:16 AM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA
AdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
Mike what the heck do you mean?
Doug Trimble
Orientation & Mobility Instructor
Off Campus Work Advisor
Washington State School for the Blind
2214 E. 13th Street Vancouver,  WA  98661 office ph. 360-696-6321 #118
cell:360-909-0833
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:30 PM
To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA
AdvisoryTeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
Jesus, mary and Joseph! Doesn't anyone realize that some PWD's actually
work?
Mike
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Robert Sellers
  To: 'NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List'
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory
TeamInitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
  Here are the details about the meeting time & location.
  Transportation ADA Advisory Team Meeting
  Date:    Tuesday, March 27, 2007
  Time:    3 - 5 p.m.
  Location: Clark County Public Service Center, 1300 Franklin Street,
6th
  Floor Training Room #679
  Bob sellers
  -----Original Message-----
  From: mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
  Behalf Of Doug Trimble
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:15 AM
  To: NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
  Subject: [nfbwatlk] FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory Team
  InitialKick-off Meeting - March 27, 2007
  FYI,
  Here is some info about the new committee the City of Vancouver is
  setting up.  Bob Sellers President of the NFB of Clark county is our
rep
  on the committee.  The meetings are open to all.
  Doug Trimble
  Orientation & Mobility Instructor
  Off Campus Work Advisor
  Washington State School for the Blind
  2214 E. 13th Street Vancouver,  WA  98661
  office ph. 360-696-6321 #118
  cell:360-909-0833
  ________________________________
  From: Judy Koch-Smith
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:12 AM
  To: Doug Trimble; Cheri DeLyria; Peggy Gallagher
  Cc: Janet Barlow
  Subject: FW: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory Team Initial
Kick-off
  Meeting - March 27, 2007
  Hi folks.  Just wanted to share the mission statement for this new
  group.  From the address list, it looks like I'm in good company on
this
  committee!  I will keep you posted on progress and developments, and I
  welcome your input once we get this going.
  Judy Koch Smith, Certified O&M Specialist
  Washington State School for the Blind
  Vancouver, WA  98661
  360.696.6321, Extension 192
  ________________________________
  From: Porter, Brooke [mailto:Brooke.Porter at ci.vancouver.wa.us]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:38 PM
  To: Campos, Jennifer; Boulanger, Todd; Bess, Bob; Isely, Charles;
  Thirunagari, Sree; Reule, Andrew; Stewart, Judy; mailto:danarnold at dsb.wa.gov danarnold at dsb.wa.gov
;
  mailto:krisk at arcofclarkcounty.org krisk at arcofclarkcounty.org
; Judy Koch-Smith; mailto:rwsellers at bpa.gov rwsellers at bpa.gov
;
  mailto:robertsellers500 at comcast.net robertsellers500 at comcast.net
; mailto:tonysuel at aol.com tonysuel at aol.com
; mailto:jim at darsw.com jim at darsw.com
;
  mailto:waltg at c-tran.org waltg at c-tran.org
; Buck, Tim; Netherda, Dale; Haldeman, Tim;
  mailto:sunnyside5 at pacifier.com sunnyside5 at pacifier.com
; Ransom, Matt
  Cc: Heil, Kathy
  Subject: REMINDER: Transportation ADA Advisory Team Initial Kick-off
  Meeting - March 27, 2007
  This is a reminder for next week's initial kick-off meeting of the
  Transportation ADA Advisory Team. Please open the attachment which
  details the goals of this committee.
  Transportation ADA Advisory Team Meeting
  Date:    Tuesday, March 27, 2007
  Time:    3 - 5 p.m.
  Location: Clark County Public Service Center, 1300 Franklin Street,
6th
  Floor Training Room #679
  Thank you,
  Brooke Porter
  Community Relations Specialist
  Transportation Services
  City of Vancouver
  360-696-8290, ext. 8867
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