[nfbwatlk] FW: Question About Bus Signage
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Fri Apr 27 21:53:39 CDT 2007
Seems to me we visited this issue many years ago -- like twenty-five
years ago, perhaps. At that time, it was the conclusion of most of us
that if a sign were low enough for a totally-blind person to be able to
read it, it was more likely that his/her head would find the sign than
would his/her hands. (grin) This would be doubly so if a sign were large
enough to have large-print on it. The immediate solution was, as I
recall, to have a larger-than-life sign high enough that it would be
unlikely to suffer the ignominy of being read by one's head while also
being large enough that a partially-sighted person could read it.
Perhaps a good compromise now would be to have poles for C-Tran signs
drilled as most of them now are (so that one could tell a C-Tran sign by
touch) with a plackard slightly wider than the pole -- say four inches
long -- with braille and print bus number on it. While this might not be
large enough for the partially-sighted (I wouldn't know, not being
partially-sighted), it would be unlikely to cause problems even if one
*did* run into it.
Just a top-of-the-head thought.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Trimble
To: Peggy Gallagher ; Judy Koch-Smith ; Cheri DeLyria ; Shelly Brown ;
Arnold, Daniel ; NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List ; James Eccles
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: [nfbwatlk] FW: Question About Bus Signage
Here is an e-mail I received from Rhonda Peck from C-tran. She would
appreciate any thoughts you may have about signage for C-tran stops.
Doug Trimble
Orientation & Mobility Instructor
Off Campus Work Advisor
Washington State School for the Blind
2214 E. 13th Street Vancouver, WA 98661
office ph. 360-696-6321 #118
cell:360-909-0833
From: Ronda Peck [mailto:RondaP at c-tran.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:16 AM
To: Doug Trimble
Subject: Question About Bus Signage
Doug,
Hope this email finds you well. I have a question for you. I'm
investigating bus stop signage for low-vision and sight-impaired
people.
We'd like to start with route numbers 44 and 4.
The idea is to place something on the bus stop pole itself. That way,
when a low-vision or sight-impaired individual walks up to touch the
pole, that particular stop will be easily identified through special
signage with raised lettering and/or braille.
My initial thoughts are that we should incorporate both raised letters
and braille on the signage. Also, I think something more permanent,
like
a metal plaque mounted to the pole, makes more sense than something
with
adhesive that could easily be ripped off by vandals.
What are your thoughts? Any suggestions?
Thank you for your consideration!
Ronda
Ronda Peck
Marketing/Community Outreach Administrator
PO Box 2529
Vancouver, WA 98668-2529
(360) 696-4494
rondap at c-tran.org
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Seems to me we visited this issue many years ago -- like twenty-five years ago, perhaps. At that time, it was the conclusion of most of us that if a sign were low enough for a totally-blind person to be able to read it, it was more likely that his/her head would find the sign than would his/her hands. (grin) This would be doubly so if a sign were large enough to have large-print on it. The immediate solution was, as I recall, to have a larger-than-life sign high enough that it would be unlikely to suffer the ignominy of being read by one's head while also being large enough that a partially-sighted person could read it.
Perhaps a good compromise now would be to have poles for C-Tran signs drilled as most of them now are (so that one could tell a C-Tran sign by touch) with a plackard slightly wider than the pole -- say four inches long -- with braille and print bus number on it. While this might not be large enough for the partially-sighted (I wouldn't know, not being partially-sighted), it would be unlikely to cause problems even if one *did* run into it.
Just a top-of-the-head thought.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:Doug.Trimble at wssb.wa.gov Doug Trimble
To:
mailto:Peggy.Gallagher at wssb.wa.gov Peggy Gallagher
; mailto:Judy.Koch at wssb.wa.gov Judy Koch-Smith
; mailto:Cheri.DeLyria at wssb.wa.gov Cheri DeLyria
; mailto:Shelly.Brown at wssb.wa.gov Shelly Brown
; mailto:danarnold at DSB.WA.GOV Arnold, Daniel
; mailto:nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List
; mailto:James.Eccles at wssb.wa.gov James Eccles
Sent:
Friday, April 27, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject:
[nfbwatlk] FW: Question About Bus Signage
Here is an e-mail I received from Rhonda Peck from C-tran. She would
appreciate any thoughts you may have about signage for C-tran stops.
Doug Trimble
Orientation & Mobility Instructor
Off Campus Work Advisor
Washington State School for the Blind
2214 E. 13th Street Vancouver, WA 98661
office ph. 360-696-6321 #118
cell:360-909-0833
From: Ronda Peck [mailto:RondaP at c-tran.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:16 AM
To: Doug Trimble
Subject: Question About Bus Signage
Doug,
Hope this email finds you well. I have a question for you. I'm
investigating bus stop signage for low-vision and sight-impaired people.
We'd like to start with route numbers 44 and 4.
The idea is to place something on the bus stop pole itself. That way,
when a low-vision or sight-impaired individual walks up to touch the
pole, that particular stop will be easily identified through special
signage with raised lettering and/or braille.
My initial thoughts are that we should incorporate both raised letters
and braille on the signage. Also, I think something more permanent, like
a metal plaque mounted to the pole, makes more sense than something with
adhesive that could easily be ripped off by vandals.
What are your thoughts? Any suggestions?
Thank you for your consideration!
Ronda
Ronda Peck
Marketing/Community Outreach Administrator
PO Box 2529
Vancouver, WA 98668-2529
(360) 696-4494
mailto:rondap at c-tran.org rondap at c-tran.org
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