[NFBCS] Google docs

[Curtis Chong]

Greetings:

Turning off the virtual cursor is different as compared to suspending the virtual cursor--more correctly referred to as suspending quick keys. The latter simply turns off the JAWS shortcut keyboard commands we all know and love--for example, h for heading navigation, f for form field navigation, etc. This enables that up/down arrow keys to work to review what is on the page but is not the same as completely turning off the JAWS virtual cursor. Turning off the virtual cursor is critical to be able to truly read a Google docs document with full nonvisual navigation.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong


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"Suspending" the virtual cursor is not a familiar one to me. Insert+Z turns it off, and Enter on some field types turns on forms mode. I assume "suspend virtual cursor" means "turn on forms mode," but I wonder if that is accurate.

On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 02:24:46PM -0500, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
   The webinar on google docs recommends suspending virtual cursor and not
   turning it off.  I discovered this from their seminar back in November.


   Who knew  there is a difference.  Apparently screen keeps reading vs
   turning it off.



   Lewis Wood

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   Thanks.  I’ll try that.

   Today, I toggled the virtual cursor a couple times, and that somehow
   made things stand still a bit longer.  But downloading it is probably
   better.

   Tracy



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   Hello Tracy:


   If the Google Doc is something that you only need to read and review
   (as opposed to collaborating with others authorized to edit the
   document), you can just as easily download this as a Word document.
   With the virtual cursor turned off, press Alt F to get into the File
   menu, and arrow down toDownload.


   Cordially,


   Curtis Chong


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   Tracy:


   In addition to screen reader support, you will want to turn on braille
   support as well. Even if you are not using refreshable braille, screen
   readers work better with Docs when this option is enabled. Like screen
   reader support, you can find this in the accessibility options under
   the Tools menu.

   The Tools menu also has an option called preferences. This should allow
   you to turn off the automatic word correction and prediction features.

   Hope this helps.

   Jim



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   I’ve never used Google Docs before, but a class teacher does, so here
   goes.

   I turned on screen reader mode.

   Some things stay on screen, but other things are read and disappear
   immediately.  How can I make them stay, so I can study them?  It is a
   language class, so I need to see spelling.  And can I turn off spelling
   suggestions?  Since I’m not studying English, they’re totally not
   helpful.

   Thanks.

   Tracy


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Doug Lee                 dgl at dlee.org                http://www.dlee.org
"It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper."  --Rod Serling

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