[Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Sat Feb 16 23:36:52 CST 2008
Joe:
It may surprise you but I agree with you. To my way of thinking, NFB's
site ought to be maintained for *blind* persons; it doesn't bother me at
all that sighted persons might find it cluttered -- they clutter up
enough of *their* sites for me; turnabout is fair play! <smirk> I
preferred the old NFB site far better. However, judicious use of the
search function helps some.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Orozco
To: NFB Webmaster's List
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
I prefer top heavy up front with good headers and other dividers to
organize
the information. The site index should only be used to find
excruciatingly
specific points, not general items that could previously be found with
little fuss in the old version, but, these are merely my personal
thoughts
and not at all reflective of the user pool. So far as I know, I have
been
the only one to complain about the new national web site, so perhaps
that is
saying something more of the user than the site. I think the Illinois
web
site is a good web site, having just checked it out.--Joe Orozco
"We cannot forever hide the truth about ourselves, from
ourselves."--Senator
John McCain
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
> Hello Joe and listers,
>
> During the seminar some of us discussed the amount of content and
links
> on a site's home page. Two of my Web sites received criticism for
being
> too,
> "Top-heavy" with a large amount of links on their home pages. The
national
> Web site was designed to address this situation by organizing links
in to
> content areas such as, "About", "Members", "Information About Vision
> Loss",
> Products and Technology", "Resources", and "Publications." The
remainder
> of
> the home page includes text and links to important happenings in the
> federation such as the Transition to Independence Club Career Fair,
> Celebration, The Jacobus TenBroek Disability Law Symposium, the 2008
> National Convention, and the March for Independence to name a few.
Links
> to
> pages concerning important issues and news stories of the NFB'S
activities
> follow this section. Note also that as events occur, and as new
> information
> about our activities becomes available this information is rotated.
Old
> news
> is removed and fresh new content takes its place.
> This arrangement prevents the site's home page from becoming
cluttered
> with an excessive amount of links to old and out-dated information.
> Provided
> I get a, "Thumbs up" from the NAGDU Board concerning migrating the
> division
> site in to X Catalyst the same will happen on that Web site.
Information
> concerning NAGDU and its activities will be available as will a
wealth of
> information concerning all aspects of blindness and the work of the
NFB.
> It
> may be some what inconvenient to locate specific information within
a
> particular content area, but the trade-off is that a lot of exciting
> content
> can be made available on an affiliate or division Web site and its
home
> page
> will have a cleaner and neater appearance.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
>
>
> I hope you don't follow the national web site standard, at least not
in
> content arrangement. I find it difficult to locate information that
used
> to
> be more easily accessible directly from the main page.--Joe Orozco
>
> "We cannot forever hide the truth about ourselves, from
> ourselves."--Senator
> John McCain
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:11 PM
> Subject: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
>
>
>> Hello Ruth Ann and listers,
>>
>> You did a great job with the NFBIL demo site in X Catalyst.
Since the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users, (NAGDU) is seriously
>> considering
>> migrating its site in to X Catalyst I need to get busy and
construct a
>> similar pilot Web Site for their board to review.
>>
>> Much of the NFB of Missouri's Web site was created with the
lay-out of
>> the NFB National Site in mind. I like the idea of being able to
include
>> the
>> same content presently on the national site on state and division
sites
>> with
>> the edition of state/division specific information. For example in
>> addition
>> to the content for members all ready present the membership area
would
>> include online and downloadable member registration forms,
newsletter
>> subscription information, and a calendar of events for each
affiliate or
>> division.
>>
>> Likewise the laws and legislation area could in addition to the
>> information now on the national site would include the state white
cane
>> laws, legislation and regulations related to international travel
with
>> guide
>> dogs and information related to specific public access issues.
>>
>> ?Doing this would allow visitors to the NAGDU Web site would not
only
>> give them access to division-specific information, but would allow
them
>> to
>> access the wealth of information on our national Web site vastly
>> increasing
>> the amount of available content and making the job of site
migration much
>> easier and more tightly integrating our affiliate and division
sites with
>> the NFB'S National Site. What you did with the NFBIL pilot site is
>> exactly
>> what's been going around in my mind with respect to creating
>> second-generation affiliate and division Web sites. Keep up the
good
>> work.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ruth Anne Wheeler" <webmaster at nfbofillinois.org>
>> To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webmasters Seminar, Any Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Hi Milt,
>> Well, NFBI has a very extensive website that I maintain. I do all
the
>> code
>> for the pages and all the publication to the website. My web
committee
>> will
>> check from time to time for broken links and pages in need of
updating,
>> or
>> think up some content to add to the site. But the site is all my
work,
>> so
>> I
>> have access to every file there.
>> Last Saturday evening after our dinner, I spent that time in the
lab in
>> the
>> institute on my laptop taking current items from the NFBI website
at that
>> time, to see how I could format them into xCatalyst. We'd already
>> started
>> an "About Me" type page in the seminar, where I had used the NFBI
vision
>> statement.
>> As I was formatting that up a little more, I tried to think of the
pages
>> that "irritated" me the most in updating on the NFBI website. The
>> Committee
>> Appointments and the Announcements are the pages that I am getting
>> regular
>> updates on, and often are my biggest pain to keep updated as plans
>> change,
>> committees change, etc. I thought those would be good choices,
because I
>> could see how easy it would be to cut out text and paste in new
text in
>> the
>> editor. So I decided that those pages - as of 2/9 - were my best
>> choices
>> for a test site to play around some more with xCatalyst.
>> After saving the pages in the editor, you have the option of
viewing your
>> page from the link in the main console. I did that, copied the
URL, had
>> my
>> husband see if he could use that URL to get to the page, go through
it
>> and
>> see what he thought. He could get there in the staging area, and
had a
>> couple suggestions from what I had formatted. I made some more
changes,
>> had
>> him check again....and the URL still worked, so after getting back
I
>> included it on the report to Patti and Ronza, my web committee and
our
>> board.
>> Hope that helps!
>> Ruth Anne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of milt.1818
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:20 AM
>> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webmasters Seminar, Any Thoughts?
>>
>> Hello Ruth Ann,
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you share with me how you got your web page
>> https://stage.nfb.org/nfb/main.asp to this point that you could
have your
>> state president take a look at it and see what he thought?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Milton Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Joe:
It may surprise you but I agree with you. To my way of thinking, NFB's site ought to be maintained for *blind* persons; it doesn't bother me at all that sighted persons might find it cluttered -- they clutter up enough of *their* sites for me; turnabout is fair play! <smirk> I preferred the old NFB site far better. However, judicious use of the search function helps some.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:jsorozco at gmail.com Joe Orozco
To:
mailto:nfb-web at nfbnet.org NFB Webmaster's List
Sent:
Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject:
Re: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
I prefer top heavy up front with good headers and other dividers to organize
the information. The site index should only be used to find excruciatingly
specific points, not general items that could previously be found with
little fuss in the old version, but, these are merely my personal thoughts
and not at all reflective of the user pool. So far as I know, I have been
the only one to complain about the new national web site, so perhaps that is
saying something more of the user than the site. I think the Illinois web
site is a good web site, having just checked it out.--Joe Orozco
"We cannot forever hide the truth about ourselves, from ourselves."--Senator
John McCain
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Donahue" < mailto:pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
>
To: "NFB Webmaster's List" < mailto:nfb-web at nfbnet.org nfb-web at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
> Hello Joe and listers,
>
> During the seminar some of us discussed the amount of content and links
> on a site's home page. Two of my Web sites received criticism for being
> too,
> "Top-heavy" with a large amount of links on their home pages. The national
> Web site was designed to address this situation by organizing links in to
> content areas such as, "About", "Members", "Information About Vision
> Loss",
> Products and Technology", "Resources", and "Publications." The remainder
> of
> the home page includes text and links to important happenings in the
> federation such as the Transition to Independence Club Career Fair,
> Celebration, The Jacobus TenBroek Disability Law Symposium, the 2008
> National Convention, and the March for Independence to name a few. Links
> to
> pages concerning important issues and news stories of the NFB'S activities
> follow this section. Note also that as events occur, and as new
> information
> about our activities becomes available this information is rotated. Old
> news
> is removed and fresh new content takes its place.
> This arrangement prevents the site's home page from becoming cluttered
> with an excessive amount of links to old and out-dated information.
> Provided
> I get a, "Thumbs up" from the NAGDU Board concerning migrating the
> division
> site in to X Catalyst the same will happen on that Web site. Information
> concerning NAGDU and its activities will be available as will a wealth of
> information concerning all aspects of blindness and the work of the NFB.
> It
> may be some what inconvenient to locate specific information within a
> particular content area, but the trade-off is that a lot of exciting
> content
> can be made available on an affiliate or division Web site and its home
> page
> will have a cleaner and neater appearance.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Orozco" < mailto:jsorozco at gmail.com jsorozco at gmail.com
>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" < mailto:nfb-web at nfbnet.org nfb-web at nfbnet.org
>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
>
>
> I hope you don't follow the national web site standard, at least not in
> content arrangement. I find it difficult to locate information that used
> to
> be more easily accessible directly from the main page.--Joe Orozco
>
> "We cannot forever hide the truth about ourselves, from
> ourselves."--Senator
> John McCain
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Donahue" < mailto:pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" < mailto:nfb-web at nfbnet.org nfb-web at nfbnet.org
>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:11 PM
> Subject: [Nfb-web] NFBIL Web Site Pilot
>
>
>> Hello Ruth Ann and listers,
>>
>> You did a great job with the NFBIL demo site in X Catalyst. Since the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users, (NAGDU) is seriously
>> considering
>> migrating its site in to X Catalyst I need to get busy and construct a
>> similar pilot Web Site for their board to review.
>>
>> Much of the NFB of Missouri's Web site was created with the lay-out of
>> the NFB National Site in mind. I like the idea of being able to include
>> the
>> same content presently on the national site on state and division sites
>> with
>> the edition of state/division specific information. For example in
>> addition
>> to the content for members all ready present the membership area would
>> include online and downloadable member registration forms, newsletter
>> subscription information, and a calendar of events for each affiliate or
>> division.
>>
>> Likewise the laws and legislation area could in addition to the
>> information now on the national site would include the state white cane
>> laws, legislation and regulations related to international travel with
>> guide
>> dogs and information related to specific public access issues.
>>
>> ?Doing this would allow visitors to the NAGDU Web site would not only
>> give them access to division-specific information, but would allow them
>> to
>> access the wealth of information on our national Web site vastly
>> increasing
>> the amount of available content and making the job of site migration much
>> easier and more tightly integrating our affiliate and division sites with
>> the NFB'S National Site. What you did with the NFBIL pilot site is
>> exactly
>> what's been going around in my mind with respect to creating
>> second-generation affiliate and division Web sites. Keep up the good
>> work.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ruth Anne Wheeler" < mailto:webmaster at nfbofillinois.org webmaster at nfbofillinois.org
>
>> To: "'NFB Webmaster's List'" < mailto:nfb-web at nfbnet.org nfb-web at nfbnet.org
>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webmasters Seminar, Any Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Hi Milt,
>> Well, NFBI has a very extensive website that I maintain. I do all the
>> code
>> for the pages and all the publication to the website. My web committee
>> will
>> check from time to time for broken links and pages in need of updating,
>> or
>> think up some content to add to the site. But the site is all my work,
>> so
>> I
>> have access to every file there.
>> Last Saturday evening after our dinner, I spent that time in the lab in
>> the
>> institute on my laptop taking current items from the NFBI website at that
>> time, to see how I could format them into xCatalyst. We'd already
>> started
>> an "About Me" type page in the seminar, where I had used the NFBI vision
>> statement.
>> As I was formatting that up a little more, I tried to think of the pages
>> that "irritated" me the most in updating on the NFBI website. The
>> Committee
>> Appointments and the Announcements are the pages that I am getting
>> regular
>> updates on, and often are my biggest pain to keep updated as plans
>> change,
>> committees change, etc. I thought those would be good choices, because I
>> could see how easy it would be to cut out text and paste in new text in
>> the
>> editor. So I decided that those pages - as of 2/9 - were my best
>> choices
>> for a test site to play around some more with xCatalyst.
>> After saving the pages in the editor, you have the option of viewing your
>> page from the link in the main console. I did that, copied the URL, had
>> my
>> husband see if he could use that URL to get to the page, go through it
>> and
>> see what he thought. He could get there in the staging area, and had a
>> couple suggestions from what I had formatted. I made some more changes,
>> had
>> him check again....and the URL still worked, so after getting back I
>> included it on the report to Patti and Ronza, my web committee and our
>> board.
>> Hope that helps!
>> Ruth Anne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of milt.1818
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:20 AM
>> To: 'NFB Webmaster's List'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Webmasters Seminar, Any Thoughts?
>>
>> Hello Ruth Ann,
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you share with me how you got your web page
>> https://stage.nfb.org/nfb/main.asp https://stage.nfb.org/nfb/main.asp
to this point that you could have your
>> state president take a look at it and see what he thought?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Milton Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nfb-web mailing list
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>>
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