[nfb-talk] Accessible currency in the best interest of the blind?

[Alan Wheeler]

Joseph,
I can see your point, but I have my own reservations.  Will accessible currency *REALLY* change perceptions of the sighted that much?

I only ask because I've seen people who, no matter what technology or other aspects of life as a blind person they are educated about, still walk away with all their misperceptions and misconceptions intact.  To a degree, accessible currency might be nothing more than a band-aid on a broken leg.

Alan


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:51 AM
Subject: [nfb-talk] Accessible currency in the best interest of the blind?


> Alan,
> 
> I'll refer you to my own messages wherein I describe the impact on the
> perception of sighted people that we blind folk can handle money without
> getting ourselves ripped off.  Regardless of the fact that we have some
> ways to do it now, even if there's some technology dependency involved,
> sighted people still sometimes ask me how it can be done.
> 
> In a job interview, they may not ask.  They may just assume you can't,
> particularly if it's not a job as a cashier necessarily, but where
> handling money might come up once in awhile.  I'd rather them have an
> over-simplistic view of how it would be no problem for me to do it than an
> over-simplistic view of how they think I can't.
> 
> I had a couple of other thoughts on it as well, but I think they don't
> need to be repeated again.  I do think an opinion on the issue without the
> associated NFB-bashing is warranted, however.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:07:00PM -0500, Alan Wheeler wrote:
>> John,
>> I may not have facts, but since the blind have survived, quite nicely without accessible currency, how can you back up the claim that accessible currency is in the "best interest" of the blind?  I'm not arguing the point.  I am merely asking you to back up your own statements.  You ask me and others for facts, show us yours, we'll show you ours.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>>    I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose
>> ~~~
>> Alan D Wheeler
>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>> IM me at: awheeler1965 at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype: redwheel1
>> Don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what is the good, well-pleasing, and perfect will of God.
>> Romans 12:2
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] To Be or Not to Be, Irritated
>> 
>> 
>> > Alan, I have all my outgoing messages in the outbox in my mail program. Do 
>> > you want me to repost them? Basically, the logic goes like this:
>> > 
>> > 1. As the leading advocacy group for the blind, the NFB represents me 
>> > whether I like it or  not.
>> > 2. Yetthe the NFB has done things that apparently are not in the best 
>> > interest of blind people, myself included. The primary example is coming out 
>> > against accessible money.
>> > 3. When an organization that is supposed to be an advocacy group does things 
>> > against the best interest of those whom they represent, it is unethical.
>> > 
>> > Now, which part of that are you going to dispute
>> > 
>> > We've spent the last month thrashing out point #2. I've been begging for 
>> > cold hard facts that might dispute it. None have been forthcoming.   If you 
>> > have any, I'm still interested.
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler1965 at gmail.com>
>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:45 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] To Be or Not to Be, Irritated
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> Can you back up your claim that the NFB is unethical?  I think that is 
>> >> mere opinion and baseless in fact.
>> >>
>> > 
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