[nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.

[dmgina]

I haven't seen any, so I am pleased you shared with me.
Thanks so much.

--Dar
www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
Every Saint has a past
Every Sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.


>
> Dear Dar,
>
> There is no standardized method at this time for these signals.
> Some have the buttons on power poles where you find the buttons most of 
> the
> time now and some place them on a shorter smaller pole near the curb cut 
> so
> they can be used by the blind and even people in wheelchairs.  It also
> places you closer to the street and curb so that you can begin your 
> crossing
> right away as the signal changes.
> This lets you use the sides of the curb cut to line up on crossing the
> street.
> Also the signals, when the buttons are pressed also gives you more time to
> get across the street in case you are 85 and pushing a walker.
> The vibrating button signals make more sense to me and don't interfere 
> with
> my hearing that very soft sound of a car slowing down to make that right 
> on
> red.
>
> I can support vibratory signals over audible ones.
> I plan on using my skills and hearing to get me across the street safely 
> not
> beepers or even vibrators.
>
> David Evans, NFBF
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
>
>
>> If I had to feel a pole to know when to cross the street, and had to take
>> two steps to the curb,
>> I wouldn't be fast enough on my feet.
>> How does this work?
>>
>> --Dar
>> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
>> Every Saint has a past
>> Every Sinner has a future
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij
>>> Dear Mike,
>>>
>>> I agree.  The audible signals compete with your hearing and the 
>>> vibrating
>>> buttons don't.
>>> It should be a aid to your senses and not a competitor to them.
>>> There is no subsitute for good o- and -M training.
>>> If you don't have those skills, then you are playing Russian Rolett each
>>> time you try to cross.
>>> Afterall, would it make sense for you to put ear plugs in your ears when
>>> trying to cross a street?  So why add a noise that your ears have to
>>> compete
>>> with.
>>> Your sense of touch is not a sense that you use in crossing a street
>>> unless
>>> a driver is running over you.  Grin.
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF
>>> @panix.com>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
>>>
>>>
>>>> That is NFB's position. If signals are to be installed, we prefer
>>>> vibrotactile signals.
>>>>
>>>> This begs the fundamental question, however, which is whether signals 
>>>> of
>>>> any sort really render a pedestrian safe if s/he can't detect traffic.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>  From: helene ryles
>>>>  To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:40 PM
>>>>  Subject: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I'm interested in NFB view on Audio traffic lights.  I don't like
>>>> Audio lights either because I am profoundly deaf and can't hear them.
>>>> However,  here in England we have twirling buttons which can be easily
>>>> located just under the button that you have to press.  I find them very
>>>> useful.  As I can't cross busy roads. Only quiet roads with the help of
>>>> a devise called a tactaid  which vibrates when there is noise such as
>>>> traffic or people speaking near by.
>>>>
>>>>    I think that NFB should consider pushing for vibrating rather then
>>>> Audio signals as deafblind people can use vibrating signals too.
>>>>
>>>>    Helene Ryles.
>>>>
>>>>
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