[nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.

[David Evans]

Dear Dar,

There is no standardized method at this time for these signals.
Some have the buttons on power poles where you find the buttons most of the 
time now and some place them on a shorter smaller pole near the curb cut so 
they can be used by the blind and even people in wheelchairs.  It also 
places you closer to the street and curb so that you can begin your crossing 
right away as the signal changes.
This lets you use the sides of the curb cut to line up on crossing the 
street.
Also the signals, when the buttons are pressed also gives you more time to 
get across the street in case you are 85 and pushing a walker.
The vibrating button signals make more sense to me and don't interfere with 
my hearing that very soft sound of a car slowing down to make that right on 
red.

I can support vibratory signals over audible ones.
I plan on using my skills and hearing to get me across the street safely not 
beepers or even vibrators.

David Evans, NFBF
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.


> If I had to feel a pole to know when to cross the street, and had to take
> two steps to the curb,
> I wouldn't be fast enough on my feet.
> How does this work?
>
> --Dar
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
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> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
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>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij
>> Dear Mike,
>>
>> I agree.  The audible signals compete with your hearing and the vibrating
>> buttons don't.
>> It should be a aid to your senses and not a competitor to them.
>> There is no subsitute for good o- and -M training.
>> If you don't have those skills, then you are playing Russian Rolett each
>> time you try to cross.
>> Afterall, would it make sense for you to put ear plugs in your ears when
>> trying to cross a street?  So why add a noise that your ears have to
>> compete
>> with.
>> Your sense of touch is not a sense that you use in crossing a street
>> unless
>> a driver is running over you.  Grin.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF
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>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
>>
>>
>>> That is NFB's position. If signals are to be installed, we prefer
>>> vibrotactile signals.
>>>
>>> This begs the fundamental question, however, which is whether signals of
>>> any sort really render a pedestrian safe if s/he can't detect traffic.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: helene ryles
>>>  To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:40 PM
>>>  Subject: [nfb-talk] Vibrating traffic signals.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I'm interested in NFB view on Audio traffic lights.  I don't like
>>> Audio lights either because I am profoundly deaf and can't hear them.
>>> However,  here in England we have twirling buttons which can be easily
>>> located just under the button that you have to press.  I find them very
>>> useful.  As I can't cross busy roads. Only quiet roads with the help of
>>> a devise called a tactaid  which vibrates when there is noise such as
>>> traffic or people speaking near by.
>>>
>>>    I think that NFB should consider pushing for vibrating rather then
>>> Audio signals as deafblind people can use vibrating signals too.
>>>
>>>    Helene Ryles.
>>>
>>>
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