[nfb-talk] jury dudy

Sun Jan 6 01:49:06 CST 2008

Unfortunately we do not have control over what a judge might do nor do we
have control over the numerous peremptory challenges both lawyers may
exercise during jury selection.  I have been called to serve several times.
I am sure that when I showed up to serve there were those who were concerned
about whether or not I would be able to serve on a jury.  I simply made it
very clear that I intended to serve if chosen and that blindness should not
be an issue.  In December 2006 I not only served on a jury but was the jury
foreman.

Blind people can serve on juries and I know that many have done so.  You
should continue to encourage her friend to serve if called.

Michael Hingson,
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-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of dewey bradley
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 11:17 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] jury dudy

thanks for the comments!
what's really messed up is that this guy was called and he wont, go in and
see If he can but Julie Deden the director of the Colorado center for the
blind, well I think It was her.
she has been called in like 3 or 4 times, and when she shows up to serve,
the judge sends her home, because she is blind.
It might not be Julie I'm thinking about, but I'm pretty shore.  Julie If
you are on this list, then was that you?
but the point is that when people want to serve and be like everyone else,
they tell you no, but when people like my friend get called, he says that we
can't do It.
I just wonder If I ever get called and show up, witch I will do, they might
send me away because of him telling them that we can't do It.
I do agree that we shouldn't make someone do It, but I don't know of any
other way of doing It.
My friend Joe, I didn't call and ask If I can talk about him, that's why I
wont say his last name.
but It was in June of 06 and the Denver post made a big deal out of It.
that was so wonderful, he's blind and he can breeth by himself.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] jury dudy

>
> Dear Dewey,
>
> I think that William is right.
> Dependence is learned just the same way as independence is learned.  If 
> you
> have always been put down and told that you can not do things as well as
> other people, then you won't.
> He is like the whipped puppy.  When any crisis or situation comes along he
> feels he can't handle he cowers and makes a puddle.
> Anything that challenges him and he withdraws and puts on the pity face
> until someone comes along to cut his meat, show him around the bathroom or
> helps him to cross the street.
> It will take something terrific to get him to change himself and his life.
> Just don't let him drag you down with him.
> As for serving on a jury.  A blind person can do it just the same as 
> anyone
> else can.
> I have been called several times.  I told the judge and the lawyers just 
> how
> I would handle each piece of evidence and testimony.
> I said that I would listen to the evidence, examine the exhibits and think
> about what I heard to the best of my ability.
> Paperwork, I said, could be looked at with a CCTV or by scanning it with
> Open Book and read for content.
> I told them that I might not see people clearly , but I got impression of
> people by their body language and the inflection in their voice.
> They seated me and we found the guy guilty of armed robbery.  They caught
> him red handed with the loot still in his pockets and his face on the 
> video
> tape doing the robbery.  Open and shut.  He hurt a lady when he robbed her
> and she identified him.
>
> If I ever do something wrong, I hope William will be on my jury as I know 
> he
> will let me go, even if I am a axe murderer.  Grin.
>
> David Evans, NFBF
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] jury dudy
>
>
>> Well, I think when I was taking Criminal Justice in college, the
>> professor said the jury is to hear the evidence.  I too, however would
>> not serve on a jury.  Not because of my vision.  But because of the way
>> our system does not work.  And were I forced to serve against my will, I
>> would not vote guilty.  No matter the evidence.
>>
>> As for your friend calling you an NFB Nazi, there is not much point in
>> arguing with him.  Your best approach would probably be to teach by
>> example and hope he wakes up and makes some changes.  Don't hold your
>> breath.  Once people like your friend learn how to be helpless, they
>> generally do not unlearn it.
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of dewey bradley
>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:41 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] jury dudy
>>
>> I wanted to ask everyone a question.
>> some people agree, and some disagree with me on this one.
>> I have a friend, I wont say his name because I'm not on this list to
>> slam anyone.
>> but this person.
>> twice he has been called for jury dudy, and both times he has call and
>> told them that he's blind and therefor can't serve.
>> He says that blind people can't serve, because if he was a lawyer he
>> would move for a mistrial, because the jury can't see the evidence is.
>> When I try to tell him about my friend Joe serving 2 years ago and they
>> convicted the guy, and It's still uphelt.
>> He just calls me a NFB notsey,what ever that means.
>> so what do you guys think about that.
>> maybe he calls me that because when I need to cross the street, I just
>> do It instead of standing there and waiteing for someone to help me,
>> like he does.
>> what would you respond to him when he says that?
>>
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