[nfb-talk] Fwd: Amazon press release Concerning AccessibilityofWeb Site

[Steve Jacobson]

Ray,

At least some of what you are saying indicates poor web page design to me and not necessarily inaccessibility.  I think 
we have to always keep in mind that accessibility and ease of use are not going to always be the same thing.  It is 
possible, for example, to have a completely accessible page that is still confusing for any user, blind or sighted, or so 
slow as to test anybody's patience.  There is also the problem of two or three versions of a screen reader being in 
common use at any given time, not to mention two different versions of Internet Explorer and now FireFox.  

To comment on Buddy's question as to what is not accessible about Amazon, I would only say that being able to learn 
to use a web page or use it with scripts designed for that page does not represent accessibility, but neither is making a 
page so easy that a novice can use it without a problem.  There is a middle ground.  I have not used Amazon much, but 
I had understood that they had eliminated some difficulties for us a year or two back that were significant..

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:45:22 -0600, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

>Not so fast.
>Over the course of the past few months, I have noticed that the pages of the 
>Amazon site have been opening more and more slowly.  the product pages are 
>particularly bad now.  Indeed, they are so slow, it's almost impossible now 
>to navigate through them.  This pertains to arrowing, first letter 
>navigation and the use of hot keys also.  As I say, I have noticed this over 
>the course
>of the past little while; ever since I bought my new deep fat fryer.  I
>am a fairly well seasoned JAWS user, having used it since the advent of
>version 4.2 way back in 2002; when I made my very first purchases at Amazon
>on the date of July 22nd 2002.  I was a mere web novice back in  those days;
>and, I can tell you that if Amazon had been as sluggish back then as it now
>is, I'd have been quite disheartened.  To speak candidly, I fail to see how
>Amazon is improving.  That's why I feel it will be interesting to see how
>the site changes over the course of time between now and June 30th.  if 
>Amazon doesn't get on with it and get it
>done, I suspect we'll be playing rather rough.

>    Sincerely yours,
>The Constantly Barefooted,
>Ray
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>Me either. Amazon is one the most accessible sites on the web.
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>> Umm. Hang on, what exactly was inaccessible about Amazon's page again?
>>
>> I've shopped there for at least eight years and have never had a
>> problem?
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