[nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home Edition, here we go again

Sat Feb 23 09:37:12 CST 2008

People! 

Don't you think this thread has gone on much too long?  It is better than a week now and what has been solved other than venting?  I think enough is enough! 

Jim Aldrich 

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from: "T. Joseph Carter" <tjosephcarter at gmail.com>
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date: 2008/02/23 03:06:53
subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Bltlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home Edition, here we go again

>
>
> Corey,
> 
> Do you let random people grab you and drag you across streets you maybe
> didn't want to cross because they're doing something nice?  Do people
> physically handle you like a piece of furniture or lead you around like a
> puppy without your protest because they're doing something nice?
> 
> I don't care in the least what a person's intent is.  I am not some poor
> blind person in need of help, "rescue", pity, or assistance I didn't seek.
> You don't have to speak slowly or excessively loud, you don't have got use
> simple words, and you had certainly better not expect that you'll talk to
> my sighted companions in my place.  I do not live so that well-meaning
> sighted people can get their warm fuzzies by trying to commit charity upon
> me, and I am deeply offended when I see others treated in the same way I
> myself would not tolerate.
> 
> In this case, apparently, Extreme Make-Over did not do a bad job, as they
> have in the past.  (I missed the episode, so I cannot say with certainty.)
> But after several cases where the show has demonstrated most or all of the
> above intolerable behaviors and certainly the underlying attitudes, I
> think we deserve the benefit of the doubt when we expect no better this
> time around.  We can now be surprised and pleased with the outcome in this
> one case.  I don't have high hopes for future shows on disabilities, of
> course because they've established a pattern to which this episode seems
> an anomaly.
> 
> The primary issue discussed in this thread is HumanWare's press release
> and the wording they chose to use.  It's frankly insulting, to all of us.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 03:55:49PM com0500, Corey Cook wrote:
> > I don't personally get the big deal anyway.
> > They did something nice for the man and his family.
> > Who are we to sit and judge this?
> >  x^^240
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> > Re: [nfb-talk] [Bltlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home Editioneahere we go again
> > I sure must be missing something here. x^^240 Why are you bashing HW anyway. x^^240 They just anounced that the show was going to be aired and I think they said they were going to be represented. x^^240 I saw the whole show and there was no mention of HW. X^^240 The only thing I can come up with is maybe the controls for the new wheel chair were actually a GPS. X^^240 I think his lack of being able to walk was emfasized a lot more than his blindness. x^^240 That is in our faver. x^^240 I found one extreamly stupid thing they did for him, that was to put that ability for music to go off, when he went into a spacific room. x^^240 Also, HW might have had something to do with creating the door that would open when the gentleman would say, open. x^^240
> > I liked his aditude about looking at what he could do not what he could not d. x^^240 He seamed to always be on the positive side which is a pluss for him and the NF-B. X^^240 Many blind with out jobs or the ability to read, are depressed and dependent on SSI. I think their main goal was to make the home accessable, because of his wheelchair needs. x^^240 They also over did it in the music area by buying him all that recording equipment. x^^240 What did that have to do with his handicap. x^^240 I still saw no sign of HW. X^^240 If they were not in the show, how did they know about the show" x^^240 They had to be in the background someware.
> > Terry Powers
> >  x^^240
> > ----comOriginal Message-----
> > From: T. Joseph Carter [mailto:tjosephcarter at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:36 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Bltlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home Editioneahere we go again
> > I don't think a boycott would be effective in the least. x^^240 I do think a more low-key approach generally involving talking to someone in a position to see to it that this doesn't happen again would probably get far better results far quicker.
> > Joseph
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 07:43:01PM com0800, Mike Freeman wrote:
> > > One question which hasn't been dealt with here is whether we'd be effective if we protested to Humanware or attempted a boycott.
> > >
> > > Do you ininreally* think that blind persons would stop buying VR Streams over philosophical concerns? Fanatics would but I fear me greatly that it would end up a huge bust and would cause us more problems than we would solve.
> > >
> > > Mike
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