[nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home Edition, here we go again
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Thu Feb 14 11:05:55 CST 2008
Note the implicit assumption here that money is at the root of all NFB
policy. Have you spoken with Dr. Maurer? Do you know firsthand that
money was the issue? Were you at the NFB convention debating the
resolution? I suspect the answers to these questions is a resounding NO.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time: I'm bringing out the fact that
we're all blathering and aren't speaking from firsthand knowledge. This
does both ourselves and the NFB a singular disservice.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Milissa Garside
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
Edition,here we go again
While I agree that money always is an issue in any organization, I
find it
disappointing that the NFB leadership throws its philosophy by the
waste
side in the name of money. While money is crucial to any organization,
I do
not believe that an organization should sacrifice its core principals
and
philosophy for money gain.
In terms of the Home Make over shows and their depiction of blind
people, I
think the NFB leadership should take a hard stance on the issue. After
all,
if money were not involved, we all know that the NFB leadership would
have a
whole lot to say.
I understand that many NFB members do not like how Home Make over has
portrayed the blind. However, in an organization such as the NFB,
things are
accomplished through the leadership and if the leadership isn't
willing to
stick to its core philosophy and fight attitudinal barriers even when
money
is at stake, sadly the issue is not going anywhere.
Milissa
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
matter."
Martin Luther King Jr.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sekhon, Harmeet" <Harmeet_Sekhon at cable.comcast.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
Edition,here we go again
> Agreed. Lets not deceive ourselves about how things like this work
in
> any organization that receives major corporate funding. We're not
> immune in the NFB from the politics of money.
>
> Harmeet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Sherri
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:34 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
> Edition,here we go again
>
> Ryan, thank you for your refreshing and forthright point of view.
>
> Sherri
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RyanO" <ryano218 at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
> Edition,here we go again
>
>
> Actually, Peter, the NFB was very selective in it's criticism of the
> Extreme
> Home Makeover project last time we brought a resolution on the
matter.
> We
> criticized the show, but ignored Freedom Scientific's contributions
to
> the
> program. I got up during the debate of the resolution and said that
we
> needed to address the fact that FS (a major player in the blindness
> movement
> with whom we work closely) wasn't taken to task for their
involvement. I
> was
> admonished by Dr. Maurer that we weren't going to address issues not
> dealt
> with in the resolution.
>
> Meanwhile, one must ask, why does a home need special adaptation for
the
> blind in the first place? Even if Humanware only donates their own
> products,
> which are completely valid in their own right, they are still
lending
> themselves to an effort that does more harm to the blind than good.
The
> very
> concept runs contrary to our philosophy, yet we seem to look the
other
> way
> when companies from whom we take donations get involved. It's a very
> thin
> and dangerous line we are now walking between watchdog organization
and
> money machine.
>
> RyanO
>
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Note the implicit assumption here that money is at the root of all NFB policy. Have you spoken with Dr. Maurer? Do you know firsthand that money was the issue? Were you at the NFB convention debating the resolution? I suspect the answers to these questions is a resounding NO.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time: I'm bringing out the fact that we're all blathering and aren't speaking from firsthand knowledge. This does both ourselves and the NFB a singular disservice.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:milissa.g79 at gmail.com Milissa Garside
To:
mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org NFB Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject:
Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home Edition,here we go again
While I agree that money always is an issue in any organization, I find it
disappointing that the NFB leadership throws its philosophy by the waste
side in the name of money. While money is crucial to any organization, I do
not believe that an organization should sacrifice its core principals and
philosophy for money gain.
In terms of the Home Make over shows and their depiction of blind people, I
think the NFB leadership should take a hard stance on the issue. After all,
if money were not involved, we all know that the NFB leadership would have a
whole lot to say.
I understand that many NFB members do not like how Home Make over has
portrayed the blind. However, in an organization such as the NFB, things are
accomplished through the leadership and if the leadership isn't willing to
stick to its core philosophy and fight attitudinal barriers even when money
is at stake, sadly the issue is not going anywhere.
Milissa
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
Martin Luther King Jr.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sekhon, Harmeet" < mailto:Harmeet_Sekhon at cable.comcast.com Harmeet_Sekhon at cable.comcast.com
>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
Edition,here we go again
> Agreed. Lets not deceive ourselves about how things like this work in
> any organization that receives major corporate funding. We're not
> immune in the NFB from the politics of money.
>
> Harmeet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Sherri
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:34 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
> Edition,here we go again
>
> Ryan, thank you for your refreshing and forthright point of view.
>
> Sherri
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RyanO" < mailto:ryano218 at comcast.net ryano218 at comcast.net
>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [Blindtlk] HumanWare, Extreme Makeover Home
> Edition,here we go again
>
>
> Actually, Peter, the NFB was very selective in it's criticism of the
> Extreme
> Home Makeover project last time we brought a resolution on the matter.
> We
> criticized the show, but ignored Freedom Scientific's contributions to
> the
> program. I got up during the debate of the resolution and said that we
> needed to address the fact that FS (a major player in the blindness
> movement
> with whom we work closely) wasn't taken to task for their involvement. I
> was
> admonished by Dr. Maurer that we weren't going to address issues not
> dealt
> with in the resolution.
>
> Meanwhile, one must ask, why does a home need special adaptation for the
> blind in the first place? Even if Humanware only donates their own
> products,
> which are completely valid in their own right, they are still lending
> themselves to an effort that does more harm to the blind than good. The
> very
> concept runs contrary to our philosophy, yet we seem to look the other
> way
> when companies from whom we take donations get involved. It's a very
> thin
> and dangerous line we are now walking between watchdog organization and
> money machine.
>
> RyanO
>
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