[nfb-talk] FW: NFB philosophy

Wed Apr 23 16:20:30 CDT 2008

I have been reading this thread since the beginning and just wanted to say a 
few things.

It would be nice to have accessible money. I don't like having to ask family 
to tell me which bill is what either, so what I do to eliminate this issue 
is use my debit card to buy everything I buy. I realize not everyone has a 
debit  card (although most people do); it's just what I have done instead of 
crying about inaccessible money; Having said that though, I do hope that 
money is made accessible someday-just not at the expense of everyone else. I 
am a blind wheelchair user, and I'll say this. Yes, we have curb cuts and 
ramps etc, but I wonder how long it took for these things to be put into 
law...quite a long time. It did happen though. I think it's the same case 
with money; it will happen, but it will take time.

I have also been ripped off, and it wasn't by a store clerk. Someone I 
thought was my best friend told me she was giving me a twenty dollar bill, 
but when I got home, my Mom told me it was a one dollar bill. There was 
nothing I could do about it though except call the cops and report it, but 
they couldn't do anything either, so I had to just let it go. This person 
was sighted, so she had no excuse.

What is my point...to be honest, I don't really know, but I had to say 
something because there are ways around stuff like this.

Jen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dewey bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: NFB philosophy

>I will just say this.
> all of you people that are aginst makeing the money accessible have I 
> guess
> never been ripd off by store clerks?
> Or do you think that It's just fine to have someone give you a 1, and tell
> you It's a 20?
> I've had that happen to me before. We should just stand back and take It?
> Not everyone has the $400 for a note teller, I have one that I got for a 
> job
> years ago, It wont read the new bills, I have to send It in, witch I can't
> do.
> They change the bills quite enough to were If they make them accessible, 
> in
> a fiew years, as they update them anyway, they would be accessible.
> We always have to fight everything that the ACB comes up with, just 
> because
> It's them.
> I don't like them really, that everyone has some good in them.
> If the NFB would have came up with It first, everyone would be all for It.
> the people that run the NFB have good jobs, so they can afford this stuff 
> to
> read the money, or they have sighted spouses that helps them out.
> It's just like transit companies.
> the people that run them never ride the busses them selves.
> I just wonder how many of the people on this list are co dependent and 
> never
> go out anyway, and so they don't need to read money, because they have the
> state pay people to do It for them?
> I know allot of blind people that think they are better then everyone, 
> they
> know everything about everything, and can't cross the street, but will 
> come
> on this list and think that because they don't handle money, then no one 
> els
> should.
> If you liked getting ripd off, then fine, but I don't have that kind of
> money to just give away like that.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:35 PM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] FW: NFB philosophy
>
>
>>
>> If this ever goes through, they better have a lot of stashed away
>> dollars for it.  If they start using our hard erned tax dollars for
>> something, crazy, like this,  the government is going to hear from many
>> sighted and I bet, many blind.  There are many other things in this
>> country, such as roads and transpertation, that our dollars are more
>> worthy to be used for.
>>
>> Terry Powers
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:16 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB philosophy
>>
>> John;
>> Someone in a wheelchair can not get up a flight of stairs, with out a
>> wramp,.  They can not succeed on their own.
>> Us, the blind, can, and have done so for many a year, handled our money
>> on our own.  We may need a teller to hand us spacific bills, each type
>> at a time, but we can do it.  We now have some machines that can even
>> read our money for us, when in doubt.
>> A wheel chair person can not be independent, the way the world was and
>> the wramps also helped the blind, and others with health problems and
>> the elderly.
>> We are independent just the way things are.  Why waste the country's
>> precious money on something we do not really need? Books,braille,
>> custady of our own children, jobs, equipment and more, sure are more
>> important than making new bills and machine, just for us, when we can
>> succeed right now.
>>
>> Terry Powers
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Heim [mailto:jheim at math.wisc.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:02 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB philosophy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- > "At first glance, the NFB's philosophy
>> appears to be counter productive when
>>> compared to the successes gained by other advocacy groups like those
>>> for people in wheelchairs. They have required the world to be reshaped
>>
>>> to their liking and by all appearances, they're significantly better
>>> off for it.
>>>
>>> Who made the comparison in the first place???
>>
>> Oh, when you said the comparison was inappropriate, I thought you meant
>> the comparison to racial minorities. So to address the actual point you
>> had made... It's just your opinion that accessible money is frivolous.
>> It seems
>> comperable to curb cuts to me.   If you think it's not comperable,
>> please
>> explain why.
>>
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