[nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Sun Oct 28 23:59:16 CDT 2007
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From: Mary Ellen Sanchez
To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
hello i hope everyone is well. i was wondering if i had ever needed
to go
no mail on some of the nfb lists that i am on how would i do that? if
someone can let me know i would greatly appreciate it thank you very
much.
your friend,
mary.
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From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of Hope Hein
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:24 PM
To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
Agreed!
-----Original Message-----
.From: "Sherri"<flmom2006 at gmail.com>
.Sent: 10/28/07 7:11:50 PM
.To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.Way to go for submiting the article. I too believe the car will be
developed .by outside sources, but we should still have a say in it.
As I
said on .another list, the ability to get easily and cost effectively
from
point A to .B would simplify so many things in our lives.
.
.Sherri
.----- Original Message -----
.From: "Michael Bullis" <mabullis at hotmail.com>
.To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:38 PM
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.
.Great Story Peter. My reason for submitting the article to the list
is
that .I believe that a car which will drive itself will be developed.
My
reason .for not believing that NFB should invest in the project is
that
there are .others with far more resources than us already working on
it.
Our job will .be to make the software accessible probably, but, I'm
sure the
self-driving .car will be along. Forty thousand people die annually
in this
country alone .from automobile accidents. Preventing these deaths and
the
tens of .thousands of injuries that result from traffic accidents is a
priority for .far more than just people who are blind.
.Keep your dream alive.
.Mike
.-----Original Message-----
.From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
.Behalf Of Hope Hein
.Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:24 PM
.To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.Wow!
.
.-----Original Message-----
.From: "Peter Donahue"<pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
.Sent: 10/28/07 2:09:53 PM
.To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.
.Good afternoon everyone,
.
. I feel I must jump in here as well. When I was growing up in the
late
.1960s I observed those around me and what happened tothe vast
majorrity of
.children when they became adults. Many of them eventually learned how
to
.drive so they could travel independently and without the need to
depend on
.public transportation.
.
. During that time I was a student at an outfit called the Boston
Center
.for Blind Children. This, "School for the Blind" was in no way
connected
.with Perkins and was located in Jamaica Plane; a section of Boston.
Since I
.was coming in to my teens like other teen agers I wanted a car, and
to
.learn .how to drive it. But of course how could a blind person drive
a car.
.I .remember expressing this to many center staff members most of
which told
.me .that there's no way that would happen, an that it was necessary
to see
.to .drive a car. You can get a very good impression of the attitude
towards
.the .blind children who attended this institution was like if I told
you
.that .there were no blind employees working there, and that those who
.persisted in .believing that the seemingly undoable for a blind
person
might .one day .become possible the penalties for holding such firm
beliefs
could .be quite .severe!
.
. We had one child care worker there named Lucy Pinarde. She was a
very
.soft-spoken, suite individual who did her best to treat her charges
well
.despite the hell going on around her. As was my routine I shared my
desire
.to one day own a car and be able to drive it myself just as my
parents and
.others did. One day she took me in her arms, and whispered in my ear:
.
."Every day scientists and inventors discover new ways to make life
better
.for people in this World. Things that are not possible now will be
possible
.in the future. It's great that you want to learn to drive, and can
imagine
.that one day a car that a blind person can drive will be created.
Never let
.that dream die. The future holds promise for ideas like yours."
.
. She made similar statements to me on other occasions being sure
she
.made
.them out of ear-shot of other BCBC Staff.
.
. Fast-forward to the year 2000! There I was in a crowded
convention hall
.in Atlanta Georgia listening to the plans to construct the NFB
Jernigan
.Institute and the research projects the institute would undertake.
One of
.these would be the development of a car a blind person could operate
.independently!Listenining to Dr. Maurer and others caused me to
recall Miss
.Pinarde's words to me during my time at the BCBC. We are now in a
time when
.technology exists to create such a vehicle. This is what drove Mary
and I
.to .contribute to the Imagination Fund in the hopes that conditions
will be
.more .conducive to our being able to develop sources of funding for
such a
.project .in the years ahead. I told Mary how neat it would be,
assuming a
.vehicle .drivable by a blind person is developed in the immediate
future,
.and .assuming Miss Pinnard is still alive and we learn of each others
.whereabouts .it would be cool to drive up to her residence in the
vehicle,
.and say, "We .did it! Blind people now have the opportunity to own
their
own .motor vehicle .and can operate it independently. Want to go for a
spin?"This .will happen if .others like myself keep the dream of
owning and
being able .to drive their .own automoble is kept alive and such a
project
can .eventually have resources .dedicated to it.
.
.Peter Donahue
.
.
.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:maryesanchez at grandecom.net Mary Ellen Sanchez
To:
mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Sent:
Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:32 PM
Subject:
Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
hello i hope everyone is well. i was wondering if i had ever needed to go
no mail on some of the nfb lists that i am on how would i do that? if
someone can let me know i would greatly appreciate it thank you very much.
your friend,
mary.
-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Hope Hein
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:24 PM
To: mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
Agreed!
-----Original Message-----
.From: "Sherri"< mailto:flmom2006 at gmail.com flmom2006 at gmail.com
>
.Sent: 10/28/07 7:11:50 PM
.To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"< mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.Way to go for submiting the article. I too believe the car will be
developed .by outside sources, but we should still have a say in it. As I
said on .another list, the ability to get easily and cost effectively from
point A to .B would simplify so many things in our lives.
.
.Sherri
.----- Original Message -----
.From: "Michael Bullis" < mailto:mabullis at hotmail.com mabullis at hotmail.com
>
.To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
.Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:38 PM
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.
.Great Story Peter. My reason for submitting the article to the list is
that .I believe that a car which will drive itself will be developed. My
reason .for not believing that NFB should invest in the project is that
there are .others with far more resources than us already working on it.
Our job will .be to make the software accessible probably, but, I'm sure the
self-driving .car will be along. Forty thousand people die annually in this
country alone .from automobile accidents. Preventing these deaths and the
tens of .thousands of injuries that result from traffic accidents is a
priority for .far more than just people who are blind.
.Keep your dream alive.
.Mike
.-----Original Message-----
.From: mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
.Behalf Of Hope Hein
.Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:24 PM
.To: mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.Wow!
.
.-----Original Message-----
.From: "Peter Donahue"< mailto:pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
>
.Sent: 10/28/07 2:09:53 PM
.To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"< mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
.
.Good afternoon everyone,
.
. I feel I must jump in here as well. When I was growing up in the late
.1960s I observed those around me and what happened tothe vast majorrity of
.children when they became adults. Many of them eventually learned how to
.drive so they could travel independently and without the need to depend on
.public transportation.
.
. During that time I was a student at an outfit called the Boston Center
.for Blind Children. This, "School for the Blind" was in no way connected
.with Perkins and was located in Jamaica Plane; a section of Boston. Since I
.was coming in to my teens like other teen agers I wanted a car, and to
.learn .how to drive it. But of course how could a blind person drive a car.
.I .remember expressing this to many center staff members most of which told
.me .that there's no way that would happen, an that it was necessary to see
.to .drive a car. You can get a very good impression of the attitude towards
.the .blind children who attended this institution was like if I told you
.that .there were no blind employees working there, and that those who
.persisted in .believing that the seemingly undoable for a blind person
might .one day .become possible the penalties for holding such firm beliefs
could .be quite .severe!
.
. We had one child care worker there named Lucy Pinarde. She was a very
.soft-spoken, suite individual who did her best to treat her charges well
.despite the hell going on around her. As was my routine I shared my desire
.to one day own a car and be able to drive it myself just as my parents and
.others did. One day she took me in her arms, and whispered in my ear:
.
."Every day scientists and inventors discover new ways to make life better
.for people in this World. Things that are not possible now will be possible
.in the future. It's great that you want to learn to drive, and can imagine
.that one day a car that a blind person can drive will be created. Never let
.that dream die. The future holds promise for ideas like yours."
.
. She made similar statements to me on other occasions being sure she
.made
.them out of ear-shot of other BCBC Staff.
.
. Fast-forward to the year 2000! There I was in a crowded convention hall
.in Atlanta Georgia listening to the plans to construct the NFB Jernigan
.Institute and the research projects the institute would undertake. One of
.these would be the development of a car a blind person could operate
.independently!Listenining to Dr. Maurer and others caused me to recall Miss
.Pinarde's words to me during my time at the BCBC. We are now in a time when
.technology exists to create such a vehicle. This is what drove Mary and I
.to .contribute to the Imagination Fund in the hopes that conditions will be
.more .conducive to our being able to develop sources of funding for such a
.project .in the years ahead. I told Mary how neat it would be, assuming a
.vehicle .drivable by a blind person is developed in the immediate future,
.and .assuming Miss Pinnard is still alive and we learn of each others
.whereabouts .it would be cool to drive up to her residence in the vehicle,
.and say, "We .did it! Blind people now have the opportunity to own their
own .motor vehicle .and can operate it independently. Want to go for a
spin?"This .will happen if .others like myself keep the dream of owning and
being able .to drive their .own automoble is kept alive and such a project
can .eventually have resources .dedicated to it.
.
.Peter Donahue
.
.
.
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