[nfb-talk] Character Conversion Question

[Mike Freeman]

Insofar as I am aware, I am not MIME-encoding using an unusual character 
set or "quoted printable" or any of those other oddities; I am sending 
HTML email but I'm using whatever standard character set Windows XP 
uses.

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Andrews
  To: NFB Talk Mailing List
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Character Conversion Question


  Joseph:

  First, I will say that I am not an expert in mime encoding, html
  messages etc.  So, there could be settings I could do to change
  things.  However, I will also say that we are not removing
  attachments or doing any kind of nonstandard scrubbing.  We use
  Mailman and sendmail, with mostly standard settings, as do thousands
  of other lists.

  I believe you use a somewhat non-standard setup, and I don't see a
  lot of conversion problems or complaints.

  Different mail programs handle things in different ways, and users
  can fiddle with things, so it may well not be us.

  At 02:08 PM 11/28/2007, you wrote:
  >Steve,
  >
  >It's part of how NFB listservs scrub messages to remove attachments,
  >un-HTML messages, etc.  I've been urging David for years now to 
either fix
  >it (he's not sure exactly where the problem is), or just stop trying 
to
  >strip out parts of messages entirely.
  >
  >The reason not to do it is because some of us use text-based email
  >software like pine and mutt for UNIX systems which can't handle HTML
  >correctly.  However, pine has dealt with HTML email for something 
close to
  >a decade now, and I can deal with HTML in mutt much more effectively 
than
  >I can deal with a mislabeled character set.
  >
  >There's also that the HTML stripper leaves behind HTML comments, 
which
  >results in lots of extra crap in messages.  Unfortunately, the way 
the
  >messages are mangled does not lend itself to undoing the mangling.
  >
  >So my Christmas wish is that a new HTML defang script will replace 
the
  >HTML stripper we have now.  ;)
  >
  >
  >On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:11:21PM -0600, Steve Jacobson wrote:
  > > Mike,
  > >
  > > I have started seeing some unusual characters in your notes and
  > I'm trying to figure out if it is my screen reader, my mail
  > program, or something else.  for example,
  > > there is one such character just above and just below "Merry
  > Christmas" in your note below.  Do you remember if you typed a
  > particular character that is being
  > > converted somehow?  Thanks for humoring me.
  >
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Insofar as I am aware, I am not MIME-encoding using an unusual character set or "quoted printable" or any of those other oddities; I am sending HTML email but I'm using whatever standard character set Windows XP uses.
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:dandrews at visi.com David Andrews
To:
mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org NFB Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:38 PM
Subject:
Re: [nfb-talk] Character Conversion Question
Joseph:
First, I will say that I am not an expert in mime encoding, html
messages etc.  So, there could be settings I could do to change
things.  However, I will also say that we are not removing
attachments or doing any kind of nonstandard scrubbing.  We use
Mailman and sendmail, with mostly standard settings, as do thousands
of other lists.
I believe you use a somewhat non-standard setup, and I don't see a
lot of conversion problems or complaints.
Different mail programs handle things in different ways, and users
can fiddle with things, so it may well not be us.
At 02:08 PM 11/28/2007, you wrote:
>Steve,
>
>It's part of how NFB listservs scrub messages to remove attachments,
>un-HTML messages, etc.  I've been urging David for years now to either fix
>it (he's not sure exactly where the problem is), or just stop trying to
>strip out parts of messages entirely.
>
>The reason not to do it is because some of us use text-based email
>software like pine and mutt for UNIX systems which can't handle HTML
>correctly.  However, pine has dealt with HTML email for something close to
>a decade now, and I can deal with HTML in mutt much more effectively than
>I can deal with a mislabeled character set.
>
>There's also that the HTML stripper leaves behind HTML comments, which
>results in lots of extra crap in messages.  Unfortunately, the way the
>messages are mangled does not lend itself to undoing the mangling.
>
>So my Christmas wish is that a new HTML defang script will replace the
>HTML stripper we have now.  ;)
>
>
>On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:11:21PM -0600, Steve Jacobson wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > I have started seeing some unusual characters in your notes and
> I'm trying to figure out if it is my screen reader, my mail
> program, or something else.  for example,
> > there is one such character just above and just below "Merry
> Christmas" in your note below.  Do you remember if you typed a
> particular character that is being
> > converted somehow?  Thanks for humoring me.
>
>_______________________________________________
>nfb-talk mailing list
>nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
David Andrews and white cane Harry.
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