[nfb-talk] NFB and ACB

Sun Nov 25 04:31:39 CST 2007

Ray,

Generally I have a hard time faulting anything you contribute to a thread.
Your thoughts are usually well-considered and highly applicable.

In this instance, however, I think this message isn't helpful.  I'm not
saying that you're wrong.  You're probably right, actually.  It just
doesn't help us move forward.  Moving forward is what is most important
here, not getting into a collective peeing contest.

It doesn't matter who did what to whom or when.  It is our obligation as
responsible members of this organization to see that it does not continue
any further.  That is what I am going to do, at least.  I hope that the
majority of us in the Federation can bring ourselves to do that.  I
likewise hope the Council will do likewise.  If they do not, they will
fade into obscurity.  That applies equally to us, though, and I am not
ready to see the NFB fade into obscurity over old grudges.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:17:02AM -0600, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> I'm surprised that the ACB got that small victory you mentioned.  That's 
> because the ACB hates the NFB.  They're just jealous of us because we 
> started Newsline and they didn't.  They can't stand that it's called "NFB 
> NewsLine".  Most every time I've come in to contact with anyone from the 
> ACB, all I get is hatred and bitterness and sower grapes.  They accuse us of 
> being full of hatred; but, the truth of the matter is that it's they who are 
> the ones filled with hatred and resentment.  They transmit their hatred from 
> one generation to the next; while, on the other hand, we do not.
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> The Constantly Barefooted,
> Ray
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> and God bless America
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David W Bundy" <sharktrainer13 at pobox.com>
> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB and ACB
> 
> 
> Corey,
> The power in both the NFB & ACB  is a collective voice.  When we speak as 
> either NFB or ACB, those to whom we are speaking hear us much more loudly 
> than if we speak as David and Corey & we are much more likely to get what it 
> is we are asking for.  I recall once Dr. Jernagan saying that you should 
> join which ever organization is more likely to get you the results you 
> seek--If you are in an area with a strong NFB presence, then join NFB, but 
> if you live in an area without a strong NFB presence but a Strong ACB 
> group, then by all means Join ACB--But whatever you choose, join something 
> so your voice will be heard.  In South Carolina, The NFB is a powerbul force 
> with a strong track record while the ACB presence is little more than token. 
> NFB has two to three hundred at our convention each year while I,m told that 
> ACB's convention averages 15 or 20.  NFB has been successful in passing a 
> number of laws in SC, incleuding establishment of the Commission for the 
> blind & several defe!
> ats of attempts to restructure it out of existance, as well as bills to 
> require that TVI's be trained in Braille to name a few.  The only ACB 
> legislative victory for ACB in SC that I  am aware of, aside from those 
> times when they joined with us for obvious things, was the withdrawal of 
> funding for Newsline.  So clearly, in SC, the wise choice would be NFB.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Corey Cook"<cooklists at bellsouth.net>
> Sent: 11/23/07 6:04:21 AM
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nfb-talk] NFB and ACB
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> I write this email in hopes to get answers and not make anyone mad with me.
> 
> As a younger blind person in my 20s, taking steps to enter the rehab field
> 
> to work with and help other Blind people.
> 
> I have to ask why should I care about the NFB or ACB?
> 
> I have been lerking on these lists for a while now, and I am on some NFB
> 
> lists, as I have time with my job and other pursuits I read both the Braille
> 
> Monitor, and the Braille Forum.
> 
> I am trying to become better informed about both groups in hopes that I will
> 
> join one of them.
> 
> The thing I keep coming back to is this, for all the good that is happening
> 
> in both groups, there is so much fighting and accusing.
> 
> It seems that as Blind people we are at war.
> 
> I am getting the feeling that both groups in there own way are allowing
> 
> politics to get in the way of the greater good, witch I thought was to
> 
> improve the lives of the Blind, and give tomorrow's Blind a brighter future.
> 
> As someone who is not currently a member of iether group I must say this is
> 
> serving to scare me away.
> 
> So here is my question witch I would love to be answered with out bashing
> 
> anyone, why should I care?
> 
> Why should I give my money and time to either group?
> 
> What good can I accomplish by choosing to join the ACB or the NFB?
> 
> Think about it, you might just get a new member out of this email.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Corey M. Cook
> 
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