[nfb-talk] NFB and ACB

Sat Nov 24 12:05:11 CST 2007

Ray,  I would generally agree with you except I might not put it so 
strongly.  Hatred is a pretty strong word, but there is something there.

You have to remember that the ACB split off from the NFB, and the 
major thing they have to justify their existence is to be different 
from the NFB.  Take that away and it is hard to justify your 
existence since they don't really seem to have a unifying philosophy.

The other thing I would say is that the organization is slowly 
dying.  I wasn't able to make it to NFB convention this year, and 
since ACB was here, I went over to check it out.  One of the first 
things you notice, after seeing how small their convention is, is 
that there are very few young people or kids there.  It is the older 
persons, the NFB haters, who are there.  They aren't attracting new 
people in large numbers because younger people don't care what 
happened between them and us in the past.  Unless they get some new 
dynamic leadership soon, then they will eventually go away.

Dave

At 11:17 AM 11/24/2007, you wrote:
>I'm surprised that the ACB got that small victory you mentioned.  That's
>because the ACB hates the NFB.  They're just jealous of us because we
>started Newsline and they didn't.  They can't stand that it's called "NFB
>NewsLine".  Most every time I've come in to contact with anyone from the
>ACB, all I get is hatred and bitterness and sower grapes.  They accuse us of
>being full of hatred; but, the truth of the matter is that it's they who are
>the ones filled with hatred and resentment.  They transmit their hatred from
>one generation to the next; while, on the other hand, we do not.
>
>Sincerely yours,
>The Constantly Barefooted,
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David W Bundy" <sharktrainer13 at pobox.com>
>To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:35 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] NFB and ACB
>
>
>Corey,
>The power in both the NFB & ACB  is a collective voice.  When we speak as
>either NFB or ACB, those to whom we are speaking hear us much more loudly
>than if we speak as David and Corey & we are much more likely to get what it
>is we are asking for.  I recall once Dr. Jernagan saying that you should
>join which ever organization is more likely to get you the results you
>seek--If you are in an area with a strong NFB presence, then join NFB, but
>if you live in an area without a strong NFB presence but a Strong ACB
>group, then by all means Join ACB--But whatever you choose, join something
>so your voice will be heard.  In South Carolina, The NFB is a powerbul force
>with a strong track record while the ACB presence is little more than token.
>NFB has two to three hundred at our convention each year while I,m told that
>ACB's convention averages 15 or 20.  NFB has been successful in passing a
>number of laws in SC, incleuding establishment of the Commission for the
>blind & several defe!
>ats of attempts to restructure it out of existance, as well as bills to
>require that TVI's be trained in Braille to name a few.  The only ACB
>legislative victory for ACB in SC that I  am aware of, aside from those
>times when they joined with us for obvious things, was the withdrawal of
>funding for Newsline.  So clearly, in SC, the wise choice would be NFB.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Corey Cook"<cooklists at bellsouth.net>
>Sent: 11/23/07 6:04:21 AM
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: [nfb-talk] NFB and ACB
>
>Good morning,
>
>I write this email in hopes to get answers and not make anyone mad with me.
>
>As a younger blind person in my 20s, taking steps to enter the rehab field
>
>to work with and help other Blind people.
>
>I have to ask why should I care about the NFB or ACB?
>
>I have been lerking on these lists for a while now, and I am on some NFB
>
>lists, as I have time with my job and other pursuits I read both the Braille
>
>Monitor, and the Braille Forum.
>
>I am trying to become better informed about both groups in hopes that I will
>
>join one of them.
>
>The thing I keep coming back to is this, for all the good that is happening
>
>in both groups, there is so much fighting and accusing.
>
>It seems that as Blind people we are at war.
>
>I am getting the feeling that both groups in there own way are allowing
>
>politics to get in the way of the greater good, witch I thought was to
>
>improve the lives of the Blind, and give tomorrow's Blind a brighter future.
>
>As someone who is not currently a member of iether group I must say this is
>
>serving to scare me away.
>
>So here is my question witch I would love to be answered with out bashing
>
>anyone, why should I care?
>
>Why should I give my money and time to either group?
>
>What good can I accomplish by choosing to join the ACB or the NFB?
>
>Think about it, you might just get a new member out of this email.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Corey M. Cook
>
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