[nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self

Mary Ellen Sanchez maryesanchez at grandecom.net
Thu Nov 1 15:47:31 CDT 2007 

hi dave and what about the ATCNFB list and the ATCNFB members list is there
a way i can set myself to no mail on those and if so how can i do that?  i
also wanted to know can those two lists be included in the reminder that i
get once a month?
your friend,
mary.

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:24 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self

You can do it via e-mail, or from the web site -- your choice.

Dave

At 12:34 AM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
>so is there a way i can go no mail if i can send a blank email with 
>nomail in the address or do i have to actually go to the website and do 
>it that way?  i know my password.
>your friend,
>mary.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:59 PM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
>
>To go nomail via email message, do the following:
>
>If yu know the password for the list you wish to go nomail on, skip step 1.
>
>Step 1. Send a message to an address which is the list name followed by 
>-request at nfbnet.org. For example, if you wish to go nomail on nfb-talk, 
>send a message to nfb-talk-request at nfbnet.org with nothing in the 
>message body and a subject of the single word in lowercase
>
>password
>
>You'll get your password mailed back to you.
>
>Step 2. Now send another message to the address specified in Step 1 
>with blank subject and body of the following lines:
>
>set authenticate password
>set delivery off
>
>where "password" is the password for the list which you knew or 
>obtained from step 1. You will be nomail until you send another message 
>to the list-request-address just like that in Step 2 but with body of
>
>set authenticate password
>set delivery on
>
>After this, you'll get list messages again.
>
>Mike Freeman
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mary Ellen Sanchez
>   To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>   Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:32 PM
>   Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
>
>
>   hello i hope everyone is well.  i was wondering if i had ever needed 
>to go
>   no mail on some of the nfb lists that i am on how would i do that?  if
>   someone can let me know i would greatly appreciate it thank you very 
>much.
>   your friend,
>   mary.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>On
>   Behalf Of Hope Hein
>   Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:24 PM
>   To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>   Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self
>
>   Agreed!
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   .From: "Sherri"<flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>   .Sent: 10/28/07 7:11:50 PM
>   .To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>   .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
>   .Way to go for submiting the article. I too believe the car will be
>   developed .by outside sources, but we should still have a say in it.
>As I
>   said on .another list, the ability to get easily and cost 
>effectively from
>   point A to .B would simplify so many things in our lives.
>   .
>   .Sherri
>   .----- Original Message -----
>   .From: "Michael Bullis" <mabullis at hotmail.com>
>   .To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>   .Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:38 PM
>   .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
>   .
>   .Great Story Peter.  My reason for submitting the article to the 
>list is
>   that .I believe that a car which will drive itself will be developed.
>My
>   reason .for not believing that NFB should invest in the project is 
>that
>   there are .others with far more resources than us already working on 
>it.
>   Our job will .be to make the software accessible probably, but, I'm 
>sure the
>   self-driving .car will be along.  Forty thousand people die annually 
>in this
>   country alone .from automobile accidents.  Preventing these deaths 
>and the
>   tens of .thousands of injuries that result from traffic accidents is a
>   priority for .far more than just people who are blind.
>   .Keep your dream alive.
>   .Mike
>   .-----Original Message-----
>   .From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>   .Behalf Of Hope Hein
>   .Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:24 PM
>   .To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>   .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
>   .Wow!
>   .
>   .-----Original Message-----
>   .From: "Peter Donahue"<pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>   .Sent: 10/28/07 2:09:53 PM
>   .To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>   .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A Vehicle That Would Drive It Self .
>   .
>   .Good afternoon everyone,
>   .
>   .    I feel I must jump in here as well. When I was growing up in the
>late
>   .1960s I observed those around me and what happened tothe vast 
>majorrity of
>   .children when they became adults. Many of them eventually learned 
>how to
>   .drive so they could travel independently and without the need to 
>depend on
>   .public transportation.
>   .
>   .     During that time I was a student at an outfit called the Boston
>Center
>   .for Blind Children. This, "School for the Blind" was in no way 
>connected
>   .with Perkins and was located in Jamaica Plane; a section of Boston.
>Since I
>   .was coming in to my teens like other teen agers I wanted a car, and 
>to
>   .learn .how to drive it. But of course how could a blind person 
>drive a car.
>   .I .remember expressing this to many center staff members most of 
>which told
>   .me .that there's no way that would happen, an that it was necessary 
>to see
>   .to .drive a car. You can get a very good impression of the attitude 
>towards
>   .the .blind children who attended this institution was like if I 
>told you
>   .that .there were no blind employees working there, and that those who
>   .persisted in .believing that the seemingly undoable for a blind 
>person
>   might .one day .become possible the penalties for holding such firm 
>beliefs
>   could .be quite .severe!
>   .
>   .    We had one child care worker there named Lucy Pinarde. She was a
>very
>   .soft-spoken, suite individual who did her best to treat her charges 
>well
>   .despite the hell going on around her.  As was my routine I shared 
>my desire
>   .to one day own a car and be able to drive it myself just as my 
>parents and
>   .others did. One day she took me in her arms, and whispered in my ear:
>   .
>   ."Every day scientists and inventors discover new ways to make life 
>better
>   .for people in this World. Things that are not possible now will be 
>possible
>   .in the future. It's great that you want to learn to drive, and can 
>imagine
>   .that one day a car that a blind person can drive will be created.
>Never let
>   .that dream die. The future holds promise for ideas like yours."
>   .
>   .    She made similar statements to me on other occasions being sure
>she
>   .made
>   .them out of ear-shot of other BCBC Staff.
>   .
>   .    Fast-forward to the year 2000! There I was in a crowded
>convention hall
>   .in Atlanta Georgia listening to the plans to construct the NFB 
>Jernigan
>   .Institute and the research projects the institute would undertake.
>One of
>   .these would be the development of a car a blind person could operate
>   .independently!Listenining to Dr. Maurer and others caused me to 
>recall Miss
>   .Pinarde's words to me during my time at the BCBC. We are now in a 
>time when
>   .technology exists to create such a vehicle. This is what drove Mary 
>and I
>   .to .contribute to the Imagination Fund in the hopes that conditions 
>will be
>   .more .conducive to our being able to develop sources of funding for 
>such a
>   .project .in the years ahead. I told Mary how neat it would be, 
>assuming a
>   .vehicle .drivable by a blind person is developed in the immediate 
>future,
>   .and .assuming Miss Pinnard is still alive and we learn of each others
>   .whereabouts .it would be cool to drive up to her residence in the 
>vehicle,
>   .and say, "We .did it! Blind people now have the opportunity to own 
>their
>   own .motor vehicle .and can operate it independently. Want to go for a
>   spin?"This .will happen if .others like myself keep the dream of 
>owning and
>   being able .to drive their .own automoble is kept alive and such a 
>project
>   can .eventually have resources .dedicated to it.
>   .
>   .Peter Donahue
>   .
>   .
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