[nfb-talk] Fw: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Sun May 6 21:42:00 CDT 2007
Steve:
HAVA certainly doesn't directly deal with state and local elections
(that's why I wrote HB-1222 in our state back in 2003). However, HAVA
does govern some Federal funds intended to help states in their
elections processes so I suspect that some leverage could be exerted
upon the process of conducting state and local elections thru
manipulation of HAVA funds.
Mike Freeman
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Jacobson
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
David,
What is the "Mark Sense" voting machine? We used the "AutoMark"
machine here in Minnesota to mark paper ballots and it worked reasonably
well. It can also
be used by blind and sighted voters who wish to do so. I believe we
are going to see shifts like this in a number of states, and I think we
need to be careful not to
get caught up in the paper versus paperless debate. If states decide
to switch, we don't want to be left out, but there will likely be some
bumps in the road, and
we're going to have to gauge the intentions of states to some degree.
For example, if we are the only group to use a voting machine that does
not use a paper
ballot, that will also compromise our secret ballot even though it
might be accessible. We could end up fighting for and spending money on
something that is not all
that meaningful. On the other hand, if a state demonstrates a
complete unwillingness to deal with accessible voting, we can't let that
stand. Also remember that
HAVA doesn't govern state and local elections. They may be effected
by separate laws and each state may differ.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Fri, 4 May 2007 09:30:33 -0500, David Evans wrote:
>Dear All,
>This is both great , but also dangerous for the Blind.
>We must now push for the "Mark Sense" voting machine system to be
certified
>for use in the State of Florida as it is the only known system
capable of
>being used in marking paper ballots that both the sighted and the
Blind can
>use.
>This means that all DRE , touch screen machines, that are now
accessible to
>the Blind, will be banned and phased out for use in voting.
>The Mark Sense machine is not currently certified by our State and it
will
>take effort to get it certified by next year.
>I do not plan to be disenfranchised by the Florida State Legislature
and
>lose my access to the secret ballot.
>I will sue the State if I have to to preserve my constitutional right
to
>that secret ballot.
>We have been the last group to get it and now that I have had it, I
don't
>plan on giving it up.
>David Evans, NFBF
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>; <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:42 PM
>Subject: [nfb-talk] Fw: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
>This is interesting. I hope we don't get left behind.
>Sherri
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "alan dicey" <adicey at bellsouth.net>
>To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:57 PM
>Subject: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
>PRESS RELEASE
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 3 May 2007
>Contact:
>Susan Pynchon, Cell: 386-804-3131
>Pamela Haengel, Cell: 727-244-9064
>Kindra Muntz, Cell: 941-266-8278
>Dan McCrea, Cell: 305-984-2900
>FLORIDA MOVES to paper ballots!
>Florida Voters Coalition congratulates governor crist and the florida
>legislature for ending PAPERLESS voting.
>TALLAHASSEE: In a historic vote, the Florida House today unanimously
passed
>CS/HB 537, already passed in the Senate, that provides almost all
voters
>paper
>ballots in time for the 2008 Presidential election, and bans
paperless DREs
>outright by 2012. The bill now goes to the Governor where he's sure
to sign
>it since it's his initiative.
>Counties will have the option to pitch DREs immediately and provide
ballot
>marking devices for voters with disabilities. "FVC urges all 67
counties to
>convert
>to uniform paper ballot systems without delay and leave no voter
behind
>voting on failed electronic voting machines," said FVC Co-Founder,
Dan
>McCrea.
>The bill is funded with $27.9 million in HAVA funds and there's
plenty more
>money in that account should more be needed next year. Counties will
get
>help
>from the state to purchase optical scan equipment to count the paper
>ballots; ballot-on-demand equipment to ease paper congestion problems
in
>Early Voting;
>and ballot marking devices to serve the disabled.
>While there was talk earlier in the legislative session about
retrofitting
>printers to failed touchscreen DREs, that talk faded as legislators
saw it
>would
>be throwing good money after bad. Additionally, they are sure to have
>understood that currently available "VVPAT" printers would not comply
with
>proposed
>federal legislation which, if passed, will supersede Florida law.
(Federal
>bill HR 811, sponsored by Rep. Rush Holt, currently has 212
bi-partisan
>co-sponsors
>in Congress.)
>The Florida bill also contains new audit provisions essential to the
>security of paper ballot voting systems. There was agreement among
>legislators that
>the new audit provisions will need further tweaking next year before
>becoming effective in July 2008. For now, the language requires that
after
>every election,
>at least 1% and not more than 2% of randomly selected precincts be
audited
>by hand-counting the paper ballots in one randomly selected race. The
audit
>will take place after certification and be reported 3 days before the
>contest period ends.
>"FVC supports 'statistically significant' audits that would yield a
far
>greater confidence level in election results and should be reported
before
>certification.
>FVC will be working with state and local election officials in the
coming
>year to strengthen Florida audit language," said another FVC
Co-Founder,
>Kindra
>Muntz, who led the successful charter amendment campaign in Sarasota
County
>that requires both voter verified paper ballots and mandatory random
audits
>in all elections.
>"We thank Governor Crist and the Florida Legislature for their vision
and
>diligence in improving Florida voting systems," said FVC Co-Founder,
Susan
>Pynchon,
>"and for working together in a bi-partisan, bicameral effort. The
eyes of
>the nation have been and still are on Florida elections - and Florida
>finally
>got it right! We can now say Florida is leading the nation in
election
>reform."
>In addition to the Governor and the Legislature deserving praise, FVC
thanks
>the two dozen co-signers to our 2007 Position Paper on Voting
Systems, who
>are listed below, and who worked very hard together at local, state,
and
>national levels on many different aspects of advocating for this
>legislation.
>Thanks to Senator Bill Nelson and other members of Congress who also
helped
>at the national level. We also thank the Florida League of Woman
Voters and
>the Florida Council of the Blind for their vital assistance. Special
thanks
>to Warren Stewart, Policy Director for VoteTrustUSA; Ion Sancho, Leon
County
>Supervisor of Elections; Howard Simon, Executive Director of ACLU of
>Florida; and Pamela Smith, President of Verified Voting for their
invaluable
>contributions
>to this effort. Additional thanks go to Sam Bell, Doug Bell and
Rebecca
>Sager for their extensive assistance on the ground in Tallahassee.
And
>finally,
>FVC thanks the thousands of volunteers and citizens who cared enough
about
>Florida's elections to help rally support, send messages to the
Governor and
>Legislature, talk to the media, and make their voices heard. "This
was a
>good day for democracy," said FVC Co-Founder Pamela Haengel.
>National Organizations - Alphabetical by Organization
>List of 6 items
>. Ralph Miller, Executive Director,
>Latinos for America
>. Megan Matson, Director,
>Mainstreet Moms
>. Pamela Smith, President,
>VerifiedVoting.org
>. Dan McCrea, Florida State Director,
>Voter Action
>. John Gideon, Executive Director,
>VotersUnite.org
>. Joan Krawitz, Executive Director,
>VoteTrustUSA
>list end
>State of Florida Organizations - Alphabetical by Organization
>List of 15 items
>. Howard Simon, Executive Director,
> ACLU of Florida
>. Jeannette D. Wynn, President,
>Florida Council of the American Federation of State, County and
Municipal
>Employees (AFSCME)
>. Cynthia Hall, President,
>Florida AFL-CIO
>. Ellen Brodsky, Executive Director,
>Broward Election Reform Coalition
>(BERC)
>. Susan Pynchon, Executive Director,
>Florida Fair Elections Coalition
>(FFEC)
>. Ion Sancho, Supervisor of Elections,
>Leon County Department of Elections
>. Trevor Harvey, President,
>Sarasota County Branch, NAACP
>. Susan Van Houten, Co-Founder, Palm Beach Coalition for Election
Reform
>. Brad Ashwell,
>Florida Public Interest Research Group
>(PIRG)
>. Kindra Muntz, President,
>Sarasota Alliance for Fair Elections
>(SAFE)
>. Sevell C. Brown III, Florida State President,
>Southern Christian Leadership Conference
>. Jim Pillow, Political Coordinator -
>Teamsters Local 385 Orlando
>. Fred Seidl, Coordinator,
>Unitarian Universalist Legislative Ministry, Florida
>. Gene Jones,
>Florida Veterans for Common Sense
>. Pamela Haengel, President,
>Voting Integrity Alliance of Tampa Bay
>(VIA Tampa Bay)
>list end
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Steve:
HAVA certainly doesn't directly deal with state and local elections (that's why I wrote HB-1222 in our state back in 2003). However, HAVA does govern some Federal funds intended to help states in their elections processes so I suspect that some leverage could be exerted upon the process of conducting state and local elections thru manipulation of HAVA funds.
Mike Freeman
----- Original Message -----
From:
mailto:steve.jacobson at visi.com Steve Jacobson
To:
mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org NFB Talk Mailing List
Sent:
Friday, May 04, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject:
Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
David,
What is the "Mark Sense" voting machine? We used the "AutoMark" machine here in Minnesota to mark paper ballots and it worked reasonably well. It can also
be used by blind and sighted voters who wish to do so. I believe we are going to see shifts like this in a number of states, and I think we need to be careful not to
get caught up in the paper versus paperless debate. If states decide to switch, we don't want to be left out, but there will likely be some bumps in the road, and
we're going to have to gauge the intentions of states to some degree. For example, if we are the only group to use a voting machine that does not use a paper
ballot, that will also compromise our secret ballot even though it might be accessible. We could end up fighting for and spending money on something that is not all
that meaningful. On the other hand, if a state demonstrates a complete unwillingness to deal with accessible voting, we can't let that stand. Also remember that
HAVA doesn't govern state and local elections. They may be effected by separate laws and each state may differ.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Fri, 4 May 2007 09:30:33 -0500, David Evans wrote:
>Dear All,
>This is both great , but also dangerous for the Blind.
>We must now push for the "Mark Sense" voting machine system to be certified
>for use in the State of Florida as it is the only known system capable of
>being used in marking paper ballots that both the sighted and the Blind can
>use.
>This means that all DRE , touch screen machines, that are now accessible to
>the Blind, will be banned and phased out for use in voting.
>The Mark Sense machine is not currently certified by our State and it will
>take effort to get it certified by next year.
>I do not plan to be disenfranchised by the Florida State Legislature and
>lose my access to the secret ballot.
>I will sue the State if I have to to preserve my constitutional right to
>that secret ballot.
>We have been the last group to get it and now that I have had it, I don't
>plan on giving it up.
>David Evans, NFBF
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sherri" < mailto:flmom2006 at gmail.com flmom2006 at gmail.com
>
>To: < mailto:nfbf-l at nfbnet.org nfbf-l at nfbnet.org
>; < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:42 PM
>Subject: [nfb-talk] Fw: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
>This is interesting. I hope we don't get left behind.
>Sherri
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "alan dicey" < mailto:adicey at bellsouth.net adicey at bellsouth.net
>
>To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:57 PM
>Subject: Great News!!! - PRESS RELEASE -
>PRESS RELEASE
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 3 May 2007
>Contact:
>Susan Pynchon, Cell: 386-804-3131
>Pamela Haengel, Cell: 727-244-9064
>Kindra Muntz, Cell: 941-266-8278
>Dan McCrea, Cell: 305-984-2900
>FLORIDA MOVES to paper ballots!
>Florida Voters Coalition congratulates governor crist and the florida
>legislature for ending PAPERLESS voting.
>TALLAHASSEE: In a historic vote, the Florida House today unanimously passed
>CS/HB 537, already passed in the Senate, that provides almost all voters
>paper
>ballots in time for the 2008 Presidential election, and bans paperless DREs
>outright by 2012. The bill now goes to the Governor where he's sure to sign
>it since it's his initiative.
>Counties will have the option to pitch DREs immediately and provide ballot
>marking devices for voters with disabilities. "FVC urges all 67 counties to
>convert
>to uniform paper ballot systems without delay and leave no voter behind
>voting on failed electronic voting machines," said FVC Co-Founder, Dan
>McCrea.
>The bill is funded with $27.9 million in HAVA funds and there's plenty more
>money in that account should more be needed next year. Counties will get
>help
>from the state to purchase optical scan equipment to count the paper
>ballots; ballot-on-demand equipment to ease paper congestion problems in
>Early Voting;
>and ballot marking devices to serve the disabled.
>While there was talk earlier in the legislative session about retrofitting
>printers to failed touchscreen DREs, that talk faded as legislators saw it
>would
>be throwing good money after bad. Additionally, they are sure to have
>understood that currently available "VVPAT" printers would not comply with
>proposed
>federal legislation which, if passed, will supersede Florida law. (Federal
>bill HR 811, sponsored by Rep. Rush Holt, currently has 212 bi-partisan
>co-sponsors
>in Congress.)
>The Florida bill also contains new audit provisions essential to the
>security of paper ballot voting systems. There was agreement among
>legislators that
>the new audit provisions will need further tweaking next year before
>becoming effective in July 2008. For now, the language requires that after
>every election,
>at least 1% and not more than 2% of randomly selected precincts be audited
>by hand-counting the paper ballots in one randomly selected race. The audit
>will take place after certification and be reported 3 days before the
>contest period ends.
>"FVC supports 'statistically significant' audits that would yield a far
>greater confidence level in election results and should be reported before
>certification.
>FVC will be working with state and local election officials in the coming
>year to strengthen Florida audit language," said another FVC Co-Founder,
>Kindra
>Muntz, who led the successful charter amendment campaign in Sarasota County
>that requires both voter verified paper ballots and mandatory random audits
>in all elections.
>"We thank Governor Crist and the Florida Legislature for their vision and
>diligence in improving Florida voting systems," said FVC Co-Founder, Susan
>Pynchon,
>"and for working together in a bi-partisan, bicameral effort. The eyes of
>the nation have been and still are on Florida elections - and Florida
>finally
>got it right! We can now say Florida is leading the nation in election
>reform."
>In addition to the Governor and the Legislature deserving praise, FVC thanks
>the two dozen co-signers to our 2007 Position Paper on Voting Systems, who
>are listed below, and who worked very hard together at local, state, and
>national levels on many different aspects of advocating for this
>legislation.
>Thanks to Senator Bill Nelson and other members of Congress who also helped
>at the national level. We also thank the Florida League of Woman Voters and
>the Florida Council of the Blind for their vital assistance. Special thanks
>to Warren Stewart, Policy Director for VoteTrustUSA; Ion Sancho, Leon County
>Supervisor of Elections; Howard Simon, Executive Director of ACLU of
>Florida; and Pamela Smith, President of Verified Voting for their invaluable
>contributions
>to this effort. Additional thanks go to Sam Bell, Doug Bell and Rebecca
>Sager for their extensive assistance on the ground in Tallahassee. And
>finally,
>FVC thanks the thousands of volunteers and citizens who cared enough about
>Florida's elections to help rally support, send messages to the Governor and
>Legislature, talk to the media, and make their voices heard. "This was a
>good day for democracy," said FVC Co-Founder Pamela Haengel.
>National Organizations - Alphabetical by Organization
>List of 6 items
>. Ralph Miller, Executive Director,
>Latinos for America
>. Megan Matson, Director,
>Mainstreet Moms
>. Pamela Smith, President,
>VerifiedVoting.org
>. Dan McCrea, Florida State Director,
>Voter Action
>. John Gideon, Executive Director,
>VotersUnite.org
>. Joan Krawitz, Executive Director,
>VoteTrustUSA
>list end
>State of Florida Organizations - Alphabetical by Organization
>List of 15 items
>. Howard Simon, Executive Director,
> ACLU of Florida
>. Jeannette D. Wynn, President,
>Florida Council of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal
>Employees (AFSCME)
>. Cynthia Hall, President,
>Florida AFL-CIO
>. Ellen Brodsky, Executive Director,
>Broward Election Reform Coalition
>(BERC)
>. Susan Pynchon, Executive Director,
>Florida Fair Elections Coalition
>(FFEC)
>. Ion Sancho, Supervisor of Elections,
>Leon County Department of Elections
>. Trevor Harvey, President,
>Sarasota County Branch, NAACP
>. Susan Van Houten, Co-Founder, Palm Beach Coalition for Election Reform
>. Brad Ashwell,
>Florida Public Interest Research Group
>(PIRG)
>. Kindra Muntz, President,
>Sarasota Alliance for Fair Elections
>(SAFE)
>. Sevell C. Brown III, Florida State President,
>Southern Christian Leadership Conference
>. Jim Pillow, Political Coordinator -
>Teamsters Local 385 Orlando
>. Fred Seidl, Coordinator,
>Unitarian Universalist Legislative Ministry, Florida
>. Gene Jones,
>Florida Veterans for Common Sense
>. Pamela Haengel, President,
>Voting Integrity Alliance of Tampa Bay
>(VIA Tampa Bay)
>list end
>###
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