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Mon Mar 12 20:00:51 CST 2007

I would want to know how you responded to your new neighbor's comment? Did he ask because he believes, despite seeing for himself that you can shovel snow, that you need help or did he ask because he may want to charge you a modest fee for his services. Perhaps he asked because he is just that kind of guy?

Mark Feliz
National Federation of the Blind of Arizona
East Valley Chapter President
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> 1. Re: child protection services (Judy Jones)
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> 3. THOUGHT PROVOKER 119- Shoveling Snow Blind (Robert Leslie Newman)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:26:53 -0700
>From: "Judy Jones" <nfbwatac at earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] child protection services
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>Hi, Josh,
>
>So sorry this happened to you and Luann. I can't figure out what drives
>people to be so vendictive.
>
>Best wishes to you and your family.
>
>Judy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Josh" <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>To: "Ray Foret Jr." <rforetjr at bellsouth.net>
>Cc: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:26 PM
>Subject: [nfb-talk] child protection services
>
>
> > Hi Ray and all,
> >
> > The person who called cps told a lie to the cps people. They told them my
> > wife was badly injured and that she was hemeraging and they needed someone
> > at our house right away. This is not true! My wife did not hemerage. She
> > knows this, i now this, her mother knows this. Her parents were there
> > right
> > after the birth. I called them downstairs. She is perfectly healthy. But
> > the
> > caller who we do not yet know made the call, the anonymous cps caller said
> > my wife was in need of serious medical attnetion because she was hemraging
> > and other stuff. that's a lie! it's a big and a serious lie in my opinion!
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > email: jkenn337 at gmail.com
> > AOL: kutztownstudent
> > msn: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
> > skype: jkenn337
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:44:58 -0400
>From: "Corey Cook" <cooklists at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: [nfb-talk] news papers
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>Hey all,
>I am looking for news papers that I can get in .brf files, to read on the
>braille note,
>any help would be great.
>Corey Cook
>corey_cook at bellsouth.net
>Xanga
>http://www.xanga.com/ciu_nice_guy
>AIM
>goldadore922
>MSN
>romans815 at earthlink.net
>Corey Cook
>
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:51:28 -0500
>From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net>
>Subject: [nfb-talk] THOUGHT PROVOKER 119- Shoveling Snow Blind
>To: "nfbtalk" <NFB-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>NFBtalk listers
>RE: Shoveling Snow Blind
>
>The newest THOUGHT PROVOKER has as its issue the carrying out of one of the
>many responsibilities of owning a home. It is one that is potentially very
>physical, uncomfortable and possibly dangerous and some of us do it and some
>do not. If you have not read the PROVOKER, it follows. Recall that I
>collect responses and post them upon my web site for all the WWW to read and
>learn from and that URL is- Http://thoughtprovoker.info If you wish to
>receive THOUGHT PROVOKERS sent directly to you, just write me and ask, at-
>newmanrl at cox.net
>
>THOUGHT PROVOKER 119
>SHOVELING SNOW BLIND
>
>Snow shovel in hand I stepped out my front door. "Burr." It was late
>afternoon and the latest winter storm of ten to thirteen inches accumulation
>was winding down. I had stayed home from work like most of the city.
>Digging out after a paralyzing blizzard starts at your front door and I
>wanted to get my walks and driveway cleared before the night's temps
>hardened the new snow.
>
>"WOW! Knee-deep!" The snow always drifted up my front steps. "This is
>going to be work." I breathed in the frosty air, enjoying the clean taste.
>"Oh well, it all starts with the first scoop." Truth be known, I looked
>forward to the challenge; I was in good physical shape, enjoyed this type of
>chore, and it chocked up a mark in the "responsible homeowner column."
>
>My first scoop was straight ahead on the top step. Lifting the blade, I
>began throwing left over the waist-high bushes. Three more scoops took me
>down to concrete. Stepping into the cleared space, pivoting left, touching
>the blade on cement, thinking, "Might be able to get this strip in one go."
>Jamming the blade forward to the grass line, lifting, pitching; feeling lose
>snow cascading down onto my feet. "Nope, too much." I began scooping the
>right-hand side of my trench. Two red cheeks later, the width of the walk
>was clear and I had to remove my neck scarf to keep from overheating. I
>repeated this drill along the short walk that ran across the front of the
>porch to where it met up with the driveway.
>
>While I scooped and tossed, I was thinking, "Interesting, shoveling snow as
>a blind guy is one of those activities that usually brings about either
>amazement or negatives in people's heads." Recently, at my monthly meeting
>for blind consumers, I took a poll. Out of the five blind homeowners, I was
>the only one who regularly shoveled. Two were elderly women; one of them
>shoveled when younger. Two were younger than me; one of the guys had no
>clue how it could be done, and the fifth guy had shoveled some, but had
>orientation issues about getting lost.
>
>If you've got your health, shoveling blind is just another alternative
>technique. The shovel is not only a tool for moving stuff; it's also a
>travel tool. And then there's your feet, just as the shovel tells you
>tactilely and auditorially about the surface you are clearing, your feet do
>the same; clear cement is different than cement that is snow-covered, which
>is different than grass-covered ground. Knowing when your blade is full
>comes from the weight and amount of resistance that you can feel through the
>handle. You clear your area by scooping in an over-lapping pattern, just
>like you cover the surface when using a vacuum sweeper, or clearing your
>kitchen table, or mopping your floor.
>
>The driveway was next. It is about 10 foot wide and 50 feet long from curb
>to garage. So after a short rest, and throwing a few snowballs, I started
>shoveling on across the front of the garage. Now the snow got deeper, above
>my waist.
>
>Facing down the drive toward the street, I listened around, taking a read on
>the auditory landscape, getting oriented. Left was the distant sounds of a
>busy street and across from me and down two houses someone started up a
>snowblower.
>
>Starting at the right grass line, I dug in at the level of my belt buckle,
>pitched right, continued to cut down into the drift, widening my excavation
>in order to clear out the snow that slid into my deepening hole. Shoveling
>the average snowfall, if you viewed the snow as a long ribbon, I worked back
>and forth across its end. I'd start from the right side, scoop straight
>ahead, pitch right, take a half step left, scoop, check to the right with my
>foot for snow that had come off the blade and clear it, then half step to
>the left and at midpoint of the ribbon, pitch left. Nope, there was no
>pretty choreography to today's job, it was just dig and throw, dig and
>throw. And so I kept with it until I detected the slant at the end of the
>drive as it slopes down to the street. "At last, here's the turn." I got
>to the sidewalk running across the front of my property and, after opening
>up my jacket because I was really working up some internal heat, I cleared
>that too.
>
>"Alright! I'm finished." Walking back over all that I had cleared, checking
>for little landslides, I heard footsteps coming from where the snowblower
>guy had been working.
>
>"Hi, I'm Daniel, your new neighbor. Hey." His voice moved from side to side
>as he looked around, "Good job." Then he added something I had to digest
>before answering. "If you want, I'd be willing to blow out your drive and
>walks for the rest of the winter. Interested?"
>
>
>Robert Leslie Newman
>E-Mail- newmanrl at cox.net
>Web Site- thoughtprovoker.info
>
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>THOUGHT PROVOKER 119- Shoveling Snow Blind
>NFBtalk listers
>RE:  Shoveling Snow Blind
>The newest THOUGHT PROVOKER has as its issue the carrying out of one of the many responsibilities of owning a home.  It is one that is potentially very physical, uncomfortable and possibly dangerous and some of us do it and some do not.  If you have not read the PROVOKER, it follows.  Recall that I collect responses and post them upon my web site for all the WWW to read and learn from and that URL is-
>Http://thoughtprovoker.info
>Http://thoughtprovoker.info
>  If you wish to receive THOUGHT PROVOKERS sent directly to you, just write me and ask, at-  newmanrl at cox.net
>THOUGHT PROVOKER 119
>SHOVELING SNOW BLIND
>Snow shovel in hand I stepped out my front door.  "Burr."  It was late afternoon and the latest winter storm of ten to thirteen inches accumulation was winding down.  I had stayed home from work like most of the city.  Digging out after a paralyzing blizzard starts at your front door and I wanted to get my walks and driveway cleared before the night's temps hardened the new snow. 
>"WOW!  Knee-deep!"  The snow always drifted up my front steps.  "This is going to be work."  I breathed in the frosty air, enjoying the clean taste.  "Oh well, it all starts with the first scoop."  Truth be known, I looked forward to the challenge; I was in good physical shape, enjoyed this type of chore, and it chocked up a mark in the "responsible homeowner column."
>My first scoop was straight ahead on the top step.  Lifting the blade, I began throwing left over the waist-high bushes.  Three more scoops took me down to concrete.  Stepping into the cleared space, pivoting left, touching the blade on cement, thinking, "Might be able to get this strip in one go."  Jamming the blade forward to the grass line, lifting, pitching; feeling lose snow cascading down onto my feet.  "Nope, too much."  I began scooping the right-hand side of my trench. Two red cheeks later, the width of the walk was clear and I had to remove my neck scarf to keep from overheating.  I repeated this drill along the short walk that ran across the front of the porch to where it met up with the driveway. 
>While I scooped and tossed, I was thinking, "Interesting, shoveling snow as a blind guy is one of those activities that usually brings about either amazement or negatives in people's heads."  Recently, at my monthly meeting for blind consumers, I took a poll.  Out of the five blind homeowners, I was the only one who regularly shoveled.  Two were elderly women; one of them shoveled when younger.  Two were younger than me; one of the guys had no clue how it could be done, and the fifth guy had shoveled some, but had orientation issues about getting lost.
>If you’ve got your health, shoveling blind is just another alternative technique.  The shovel is not only a tool for moving stuff; it's also a travel tool.  And then there's your feet, just as the shovel tells you tactilely and auditorially about the surface you are clearing, your feet do the same; clear cement is different than cement that is snow-covered, which is different than grass-covered ground.  Knowing when your blade is full comes from the weight and amount of resistance that you can feel through the handle.  You clear your area by scooping in an over-lapping pattern, just like you cover the surface when using a vacuum sweeper, or clearing your kitchen table, or mopping your floor.
>The driveway was next.   It is about 10 foot wide and 50 feet long from curb to garage.  So after a short rest, and throwing a few snowballs, I started shoveling on across the front of the garage.  Now the snow got deeper, above my waist.
>Facing down the drive toward the street, I listened around, taking a read on the auditory landscape, getting oriented.  Left was the distant sounds of a busy street and across from me and down two houses someone started up a snowblower.
>Starting at the right grass line, I dug in at the level of my belt buckle, pitched right, continued to cut down into the drift, widening my excavation in order to clear out the snow that slid into my deepening hole.  Shoveling the average snowfall, if you viewed the snow as a long ribbon, I worked back and forth across its end.  I’d start from the right side, scoop straight ahead, pitch right, take a half step left, scoop, check to the right with my foot for snow that had come off the blade and clear it, then half step to the left and at midpoint of the ribbon, pitch left.  Nope, there was no pretty choreography to today's job, it was just dig and throw, dig and throw.  And so I kept with it until I detected the slant at the end of the drive as it slopes down to the street.  "At last, here’s the turn."  I got to the sidewalk running across the front of my property and, after opening up my jacket because I was really working up some internal heat, I cleared that t!
>oo.
>"Alright! I’m finished."  Walking back over all that I had cleared, checking for little landslides, I heard footsteps coming from where the snowblower guy had been working.
>"Hi, I'm Daniel, your new neighbor.  Hey…" His voice moved from side to side as he looked around, "Good job."  Then he added something I had to digest before answering.  "If you want, I'd be willing to blow out your drive and walks for the rest of the winter.  Interested?"
>Robert Leslie Newman
>E-Mail- newmanrl at cox.net
>Web Site- thoughtprovoker.info
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:28:21 -0400
>From: "Michael Bullis" <mabullis at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] news papers
>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Message-ID: <BAY126-DAV1A60793CCB96547E22898CE7D0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Just off the top of my head I'd say you could:
>1. set your newspapers from newsline to download each morning to your email
>inbox.
>2. Open the newspaper's xml file in your browser.
>3. Copy and paste the text to a notepad file.
>4. Save it as a text file
>5. Read it in your braillenote through the book reader and set translation
>into grade II Braille to Yes.
>6. You're done.
>
>There are probably simpler ways to do what I've suggested but I haven't had
>coffee yet this morning.
>Mike Bullis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Corey Cook
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:45 AM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: [nfb-talk] news papers
>
>Hey all,
>I am looking for news papers that I can get in .brf files, to read on the
>braille note, any help would be great.
>Corey Cook
>corey_cook at bellsouth.net
>Xanga
>http://www.xanga.com/ciu_nice_guy
>AIM
>goldadore922
>MSN
>romans815 at earthlink.net
>Corey Cook
>
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