[nfb-talk] The JFK Battleship Incident

[kaye zimpher]

That would be neat although Atlanta is about 4 and half hours from the water 
depending on who is driving. The closest water that is not man made is the 
coastline of Savannah.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] The JFK Battleship Incident


> This may sound kind of crazy, but how close is Atlanta to the water.  If
> it is close, we could schedule a tour of a Navy boat and prove that we
> are capable blind people and are equal.
> Just a thought.
> Terry Powers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Miller [mailto:brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:46 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; Beth Wright
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] The JFK Battleship Incident
>
> This incident is definitely frustrating and disturbing, though not
> surprising in the least.
>
> I wonder what our options are here -- Can we really sue the U. S. Navy
> as so
> many of these articles say we intend to do?  I have my doubts that this
> is
> possible, given sovereign imunity protections, and the unique ways in
> which
> military facilities protect themselves from laws of accessibility.
>
> Brian MIller
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Beth Wright" <beth.wright at mindspring.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] The JFK Battleship Incident
>
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> This is the same battle we have been fighting with the cruise lines
> for
>> years.
>> It does not seem to matter how many times we tell them that there is
> nothing
>> on a ship such as bulkhead doors, ladders, stairs and the like, that
> are
> not
>> present in any large building.
>> Stepping over a bulkhead hatchway is the same as stepping over a
> parking
> lot
>> bumper.  Ladders and stairs are the same as those found in any common
>> building.  Anyone ever had to climb up in a attic? or down into a
> basement.
>> As a NAVY brat and blind since the age of 16, I have been aboard many
>> warships including submarines, and everything else up to both aircraft
>> carriers and two IOWA class battleships.
>>   In fact one of the last warships I was on was the USS Yorktown
> before it
>> was decommissioned.  I still have my hat with it's name on it that I
> bought
>> when on board.
>> This was ridiculous for them to turn him away.
>> AS we who are Blind well know, there are good blind travelers and bad
> blind
>> travelers.
>> The good ones don't need anyone to go with them because they have good
>> skills.  The bad blind travelers never go anywhere without someone to
> help
>> them.
>> As someone who has always been proud of being associated with the U.
> S.
>> NAVY, I must say that the NAVY is all wet on this one.
>> I think that we must fight for this to be changed once and for all or
> others
>> may use it to deny us access in other places.
>> This, in my opinion, is a black eye for the NAVY in which my father
> served
>> for almost 40 years seeing action in World War 2, Korea and two tours
> in
>> Viet Nam before his retirement.
>> My father did not raise me to be a quitter or to take second place.
>> Even with my blindness at age 16, I finished high school, have 2
> college
>> degrees, was on one US Olympic Team, NCAA National championship team
> and
> Pan
>> American Team in Track, worked as a Nuclear/Aerospace materials
> Engineer,
>> built the Lunar Rovers that sit on the Moon and several noted aircraft
>> including the F-117-A Stealth Fighter
>> Today I work for a national transit company and serve on several board
> that
>> oversee transit services where I work to improve access to Public
>> Transportation to Para-transit, fixed route services and commuter
> rail.
>> I know the next time there is Fleet Week here in South Florida I am
> going
> to
>> be there and the Marines and Shore patrol are going to have there
> hands
> full
>> with all of the Blind People I am going to bring them to tour the
> ships.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF
>> .
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beth Wright" <beth.wright at mindspring.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:42 AM
>> Subject: [nfb-talk] The JFK Battleship Incident
>>
>>
>> > Hi, folks.
>> >
>> > In case you haven't checked our website, there's been a follow-up to
> last
>> > weekend's incident with the battleship.  Not only did the Navy not
> back
>> > down, but they said that, had the blind guy been accompanied by a
> sighted
>> > person, they would gladly have let him tour the ship.  How long have
> we
>> > got
>> > to keep fighting these battles until they finally get it?  It's the
> same
>> > old
>> > thing.  Shut up.  Be reasonable, be grateful, and don't cause any
> trouble.
>> > Look at all those other blind people.  They're not making a fuss.
>> >
>> > Well, what they don't realize is that the same blind people who
> appear
>> > docile and grateful in public are the first ones to turn to the NFB
> when
>> > they encounter discrimination and they can't get the sighted to take
> them
>> > seriously.  Let's keep up the fight!
>> >
>> > Beth Wright
>> >
>> >
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