[nfb-talk] FW: Freedom Scientific andSerotek AnnounceTrademarkAccord

Sun Jun 10 09:17:26 CDT 2007

William

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From: Wm. Ritchhart [mailto:william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:17 AM
To: 'don nepple'
Subject: RE: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek
AnnounceTrademarkAccord

It's a computer.  It was marketed as the device that would eliminate the
need for JAWS to the person who I know who bought one. However when he
demonstrated it to me, it had so many limitations that I choose a HP
Desk Top and JAWS when I bought.

William

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From: don nepple [mailto:dnepple at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:24 AM
To: william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net; 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek
AnnounceTrademarkAccord

please tell me what is freadem box if you would.don nepple.s

> From: william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net
> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:49:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek
AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> 
> However, Council and Foundation are two vastly different things. Also,
> It would more like be the Foundation who would do the suing. They
> existed first. 
> 
> 
> William
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of kaye zimpher
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:16 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek
> AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> 
> So should the american council of the blind sue the american
foundation
> for 
> the blind because the words american and blind are both in the company
> name? 
> Even though we all know that the 2 organizations perform vastly
> different 
> tasks and while I will not say they are never coufused it does not
seem
> a 
> law suit necessary.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek 
> AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> 
> 
> > Well, for those who say that the lawsuit was totally unnecessary;
> unless 
> > you
> > work for Freedom Scientific, in their tech support or sales area,
you 
> > don't
> > really know how much confusion there was between Freedom Scientific
> and
> > Freedom Box. It seems that if people don't like Freedom Scientific,
> they
> > find any excuse to bash them...much like some do to the NFB. Would
it
> 
> > also
> > be wrong for the NFB to file suit against a smaller organization who
> uses
> > "Federation", or "Blind Federation" in their name, just because
there
> > probably isn't any confusion? No, it would be perfectly appropriate.

> > There
> > are reasons for names to be registered or copyrighted, whatever they
> do to
> > insure the name isn't used by someone else.
> >
> > It didn't come to a court case, because the two companies worked out
> an
> > agreement. But, just because FS is the larger company, they're not
> > automatically wrong and the bully. Just my opinion.
> >
> > Cindy
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Michael D. Barber" <m.barber at mchsi.com>
> > To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific and Serotek
> > AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> >
> >
> > I agree with Alicia. I'm extremely disappointed with Freedom
> Scientific
> > regarding this lawsuit.
> > I think it was totally unnecessary. In my opinion, Freedom
Scientific
> > should pay more attention to developing a product that isn't so
buggy
> > instead of picking on small companies.
> >
> > Michael
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Alicia Richards
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:37 AM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific and Serotek
> > AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> >
> > Hi, list. I have mixed feelings when I read this. In one way, I'm
> glad
> > they've settled, and that FS has dismissed the lawsuit. It wouldn't
> have
> > been good on either company to have fought the battle to it's
fullest
> > extent.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I feel like FS basically won this suit. The only
> reason 
> > they
> > chose to dismiss it is because Serotek gave into their demands. I've

> > never
> > seen anyone confuse FreedomBox with any FS product, and I wish
Serotek
> > didn't have to make such changes to their line. The name Freedom Box
> has
> > existed for years. What made FS decide they had to fight about it
> now? I
> > personally think that FS is worried because Serotek and their
products
> are
> > gaining in popularity and use among the blind, especially since
System
> > Access came out. So now they are perceived as real competition, and
> > therefore a threat. FS didn't think they had to act till now.
> >
> > I'm disappointed that Serotek had to give in, but I do think that
all
> the
> > suit has done is put their name even more in the public spotlight.
> > Hopefully in a roundabout way, that will contribute to the growth of
> their
> > company.
> >
> > Alicia
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nfb-talk mailing list
> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >
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> > nfb-talk mailing list
> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >
> >
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> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk 
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William

From:
Wm. Ritchhart [mailto:william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net]
Sent:
Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:17 AM
To:
'don nepple'
Subject:
RE: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek AnnounceTrademarkAccord
It's a computer.  It was marketed as the device that would eliminate the need for JAWS to the person who I know who bought one. However when he demonstrated it to me, it had so many limitations that I choose a HP Desk Top and JAWS when I bought.

William

From:
don nepple [mailto:dnepple at hotmail.com]
Sent:
Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:24 AM
To:
william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net; 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject:
RE: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek AnnounceTrademarkAccord
please tell me what is freadem box if you would.don nepple.s
> From: william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net
> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:49:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek AnnounceTrademarkAccord
>
> However, Council and Foundation are two vastly different things. Also,
> It would more like be the Foundation who would do the suing. They
> existed first.
>
>
> William
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of kaye zimpher
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:16 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek
> AnnounceTrademarkAccord
>
> So should the american council of the blind sue the american foundation
> for
> the blind because the words american and blind are both in the company
> name?
> Even though we all know that the 2 organizations perform vastly
> different
> tasks and while I will not say they are never coufused it does not seem
> a
> law suit necessary.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific andSerotek
> AnnounceTrademarkAccord
>
>
> > Well, for those who say that the lawsuit was totally unnecessary;
> unless
> > you
> > work for Freedom Scientific, in their tech support or sales area, you
> > don't
> > really know how much confusion there was between Freedom Scientific
> and
> > Freedom Box. It seems that if people don't like Freedom Scientific,
> they
> > find any excuse to bash them...much like some do to the NFB. Would it
>
> > also
> > be wrong for the NFB to file suit against a smaller organization who
> uses
> > "Federation", or "Blind Federation" in their name, just because there
> > probably isn't any confusion? No, it would be perfectly appropriate.
> > There
> > are reasons for names to be registered or copyrighted, whatever they
> do to
> > insure the name isn't used by someone else.
> >
> > It didn't come to a court case, because the two companies worked out
> an
> > agreement. But, just because FS is the larger company, they're not
> > automatically wrong and the bully. Just my opinion.
> >
> > Cindy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael D. Barber" <m.barber at mchsi.com>
> > To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific and Serotek
> > AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> >
> >
> > I agree with Alicia. I'm extremely disappointed with Freedom
> Scientific
> > regarding this lawsuit.
> > I think it was totally unnecessary. In my opinion, Freedom Scientific
> > should pay more attention to developing a product that isn't so buggy
> > instead of picking on small companies.
> >
> > Michael
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Alicia Richards
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:37 AM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Freedom Scientific and Serotek
> > AnnounceTrademarkAccord
> >
> > Hi, list. I have mixed feelings when I read this. In one way, I'm
> glad
> > they've settled, and that FS has dismissed the lawsuit. It wouldn't
> have
> > been good on either company to have fought the battle to it's fullest
> > extent.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I feel like FS basically won this suit. The only
> reason
> > they
> > chose to dismiss it is because Serotek gave into their demands. I've
> > never
> > seen anyone confuse FreedomBox with any FS product, and I wish Serotek
> > didn't have to make such changes to their line. The name Freedom Box
> has
> > existed for years. What made FS decide they had to fight about it
> now? I
> > personally think that FS is worried because Serotek and their products
> are
> > gaining in popularity and use among the blind, especially since System
> > Access came out. So now they are perceived as real competition, and
> > therefore a threat. FS didn't think they had to act till now.
> >
> > I'm disappointed that Serotek had to give in, but I do think that all
> the
> > suit has done is put their name even more in the public spotlight.
> > Hopefully in a roundabout way, that will contribute to the growth of
> their
> > company.
> >
> > Alicia
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nfb-talk mailing list
> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nfb-talk mailing list
> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nfb-talk mailing list
> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
>
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
>
> _______________________________________________
> nfb-talk mailing list
> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
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