[nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

Mon Feb 12 09:36:21 CST 2007

Kaye;
Can you see at all?  If not what enjoyment do you get out of taking
pictures that you can not see?  I can see a high partial enjoying the
pictures and even a low partial might be able to see them blown up on a
computer, but a total I can not understand.
I do crafts and have enough sight to distinguish most colors.  Being a
low partial I still can see my work and also feal the beauty in it.
This can not be done with pictures.  I even sell my work.  If a person
can not focus a camera and take the shot at the right time, how is he
going to get the person smiling instead of frowning.  
I love sale boats on the water, but if you want a beautiful picture of
one, the sail has to be in full view, not where you just see a line in
the air.
Just a few thoughts to think about.
Terry Powers

-----Original Message-----
From: kaye zimpher [mailto:kayezimpher at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:34 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

I think this is all being taken a little more seriously than necessary.
I 
personally don't have anything to prove. I am old enough to have passed
that 
portion of my life. I just do it for enjoyment. I will never enter an
art 
contest or maybe quit my job to go on the road as a photographer, it
just 
seemed like something fun to do, and for me that is where it will stop.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Westbrook" <westbc at clw19.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

> Are we really capable of doing it though.  There's more to photography

> than
> just pointing and shooting.  Lets use our energies on something we can
do
> and really do well, not just do.  I don't think it is a bad thing to
say
> that some things are better left to people who can see and get visual
> enjoyment out of them.  I don't have anything against blind people
doing
> photography, but some of you seem to want this to prove something, and
I
> don't think it proves anything.  If you enjoy it, fine, but don't do
stuff
> just to prove it can be done.  That's just stupid.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>
>
>> To me, it is just one more thing that we are capable of doing that
some 
>> of
>> us did not know we could do and that the world definitely does not
know 
>> we
>> can do. I don't think it goes much beond that.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>> To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "'NFB Talk Mailing List'"
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>
>>
>>> Yeah, it shows that, but it doesn't, as this "shows something about
the
>>> blind" would imply, expose our soul or our inner selves to the
world.
>>> That
>>> is what I was getting at.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Wm. Ritchhart
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:07 AM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>> Yes it does show something!  A blind photographer can take just as 
>>> crummy
>>> or
>>> just as good a picture as the average sighted person.
>>>
>>> I really cannot see the big deal.  Today for the most part, you
point 
>>> the
>>> camera at the target and push the button.  What is the big deal
>>> about that?
>>>
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler
>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:42 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>> Actually?  I wouldn't put too much into this whole idea of
photographs
>>> showing the viewer something about the blind person who took the 
>>> photows.
>>> Sounds like (pardon my language) artsy-fartsy talk for saying that
>>> artistic
>>> expression is an expression of a person's soul.  Not that I
>>> wholeheartedly
>>> agree with that, but that is what I think those people are trying to
say
>>> when they say that the photos show them something about being blind.
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Brian Miller
>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:37 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>> I certainly think there is nothing wrong with wanting to understand
how
>>> photography works, take pictures, or have pictures taken of you to
show
>>> to
>>> others -- this is all part of understanding and engaging in a world
that
>>> is
>>> relentlessly visual and driven by the photographic image.  However,
I
>>> stop
>>> short when the sighted assert that a blind guy taking pictures
somehow
>>> tells
>>> them something about being blind, apart from the fact that the blind
>>> person
>>> is less likely to get off a good picture.
>>>
>>> Brian Miller
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>>
>>>> GW:
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I have no objection to blind persons operating cameras
>>> though I
>>>> cannot for the life of me fathom what they (the blind persons)
would
>>> get
>>> out
>>>> of the exercise other than being able to play with nifty gadgetry.
>>> Where I
>>>> got off the train was when the one of the persons quoted in the
>>> article
>>>> maintained that viewing the photos would give the sighted a glimpse
of
>>> the
>>>> world of the blind. To engage in aliteration for a moment, that's
pure
>>>> piffle!
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I think it's quite important that blind persons have some
grasp
>>> of
>>> the
>>>> visual arts, if for no other reason that they are part of the
culture
>>> we
>>>> inhabit. So more power to you!
>>>>
>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "George McDermith" <blind_paladin at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:26 AM
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Greetings all!
>>>>
>>>>               I just joined up with the list and am pleased I did
so.
>>>> Engaging dialog seems to be the name of the game on this list.  I
>>> should
>>>> have expected it with RyanO and other delightful people I recognize
>>>> involved.  *smile*
>>>>
>>>>               Regarding the blind photographer I think the issue
can
>>> be
>>>> taken many different ways.  On the one hand of course passing is
silly
>>> and
>>>> not useful.  On the other hand I find nothing harmful from my
>>> viewpoint of
>>>> doing something one enjoys, regardless of what it is.  If I enjoy
>>> having
>>>> pictures described to me at an art museum, an activity most view as
a
>>>> sighted one, am I attempting to be sighted?  Would individuals
mistake
>>> me
>>>> for such, or would they view my different enjoyment of a common
>>> activity
>>> as
>>>> an alternative technique.  Some of course will be ignorant, but
they
>>> will
>>> be
>>>> so regardless of whether I am doing something I enjoy or not.
>>> Additionally
>>>> I can take the opportunity to educate them on what blindness is and
>>> isn't.
>>>>
>>>>               I believe this photo story falls into this category
of
>>> blind
>>>> people doing something they enjoy.  My thoughts anyway, I am
looking
>>> forward
>>>> to a great discussion on it.
>>>>
>>>>               Many thanks for having me on this list, it will be
>>> superb.
>>>>
>>>>               Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>               G.W. (George McDermith, Colorado Springs)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   "I can do all things through him who strengthens me."
-Philippians
>>> 4:13
>>>> (ESV)
>>>>
>>>>   www.christian-gamers-guild.org/sof.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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