[nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
Kolby Garrison
kolbygarrison at triad.rr.com
Sun Feb 11 20:41:16 CST 2007
Hi Everyone,
While we're on the subject of blind people and photography, does anyone know
of a list where those who are blind and happen to be interested in
photography can discuss it?
Thanks.
Kolby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Westbrook" <westbc at clw19.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>I can't answer the first two, but have you ever thought that there may not
> be a building nearby to go into? OR perhaps he is traveling at night when
> most buildings are closed. I would suspect it wouldn't take a great
> picture
> to figure out where someone was. A bunch of trees in a city? Come on.
> Sounds like a novel concept to me.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1 at carolina.rr.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>
>
>>I am on another list for blind people who use the LG model cell phones and
>>a
>> question was posed about the camera our phone has. I never gave the
>> camera
>> much thought, but another list member said that he uses the camera to
>> take
>> pictures of where he is if he gets lost, then he sends the pictures to
>> his
>> sighted wife and she lets him know where he is in the city so he can find
>> his way home. Now this brought up many questions. First how can his wife
>> really know where he is just by the picture. What if he takes a picture
>> of
>> a
>> bunch of trees can she say "yes honey you are at the corner of 3rd and
>> Maine." Also, how good are his pictures? He may be a partial, but if he
>> is
>> not as I suspect from his message how does he know what he is taking a
>> picture of if he is lost. My last question and one I thought was
>> important,
>> if he is lost, why not go in to a near by building and ask directions? I
>> find that to be helpful and a little quicker than forwarding a pic to a
>> loved one. Just a thought or 2 I suppose.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1 at carolina.rr.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>
>>
>>> Hey all, one very important application of a camera for a blind person I
>>> would think would be to photograph an accident or a crime in progress to
>>> have a photo handy to identify the perpetrator.
>>>
>>> I have often heard of crimes committed against blind persons where the
>>> perpetrator gets away with it because there is no "eye witness". Well,
>>> if
>>> there's a picture the problem is solved.
>>> So put the "date stamp" on on your cell phone camera and keep it handy
>>> for
>>> emergency use in case you have the opportunity to use it!
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>> --le
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>>
>>> To me, it is just one more thing that we are capable of doing that some
>>> of
>>> us did not know we could do and that the world definitely does not know
>>> we
>>> can do. I don't think it goes much beond that.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "'NFB Talk Mailing List'"
>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, it shows that, but it doesn't, as this "shows something about the
>>>> blind" would imply, expose our soul or our inner selves to the world.
>>>> That
>>>> is what I was getting at.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Wm. Ritchhart
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:07 AM
>>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>>
>>>> Yes it does show something! A blind photographer can take just as
>>>> crummy
>>>> or
>>>> just as good a picture as the average sighted person.
>>>>
>>>> I really cannot see the big deal. Today for the most part, you point
>>>> the
>>>> camera at the target and push the button. What is the big deal
>>>> about that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:42 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>>
>>>> Actually? I wouldn't put too much into this whole idea of photographs
>>>> showing the viewer something about the blind person who took the
>>>> photows.
>>>> Sounds like (pardon my language) artsy-fartsy talk for saying that
>>>> artistic
>>>> expression is an expression of a person's soul. Not that I
>>>> wholeheartedly
>>>> agree with that, but that is what I think those people are trying to
>>>> say
>>>> when they say that the photos show them something about being blind.
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Brian Miller
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:37 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>>
>>>> I certainly think there is nothing wrong with wanting to understand how
>>>> photography works, take pictures, or have pictures taken of you to show
>>>> to
>>>> others -- this is all part of understanding and engaging in a world
>>>> that
>>>> is
>>>> relentlessly visual and driven by the photographic image. However, I
>>>> stop
>>>> short when the sighted assert that a blind guy taking pictures somehow
>>>> tells
>>>> them something about being blind, apart from the fact that the blind
>>>> person
>>>> is less likely to get off a good picture.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Miller
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> GW:
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, I have no objection to blind persons operating cameras
>>>> though I
>>>>> cannot for the life of me fathom what they (the blind persons) would
>>>> get
>>>> out
>>>>> of the exercise other than being able to play with nifty gadgetry.
>>>> Where I
>>>>> got off the train was when the one of the persons quoted in the
>>>> article
>>>>> maintained that viewing the photos would give the sighted a glimpse of
>>>> the
>>>>> world of the blind. To engage in aliteration for a moment, that's pure
>>>>> piffle!
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I think it's quite important that blind persons have some grasp
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>>> visual arts, if for no other reason that they are part of the culture
>>>> we
>>>>> inhabit. So more power to you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "George McDermith" <blind_paladin at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:26 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I just joined up with the list and am pleased I did so.
>>>>> Engaging dialog seems to be the name of the game on this list. I
>>>> should
>>>>> have expected it with RyanO and other delightful people I recognize
>>>>> involved. *smile*
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the blind photographer I think the issue can
>>>> be
>>>>> taken many different ways. On the one hand of course passing is silly
>>>> and
>>>>> not useful. On the other hand I find nothing harmful from my
>>>> viewpoint of
>>>>> doing something one enjoys, regardless of what it is. If I enjoy
>>>> having
>>>>> pictures described to me at an art museum, an activity most view as a
>>>>> sighted one, am I attempting to be sighted? Would individuals mistake
>>>> me
>>>>> for such, or would they view my different enjoyment of a common
>>>> activity
>>>> as
>>>>> an alternative technique. Some of course will be ignorant, but they
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>>> so regardless of whether I am doing something I enjoy or not.
>>>> Additionally
>>>>> I can take the opportunity to educate them on what blindness is and
>>>> isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe this photo story falls into this category of
>>>> blind
>>>>> people doing something they enjoy. My thoughts anyway, I am looking
>>>> forward
>>>>> to a great discussion on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for having me on this list, it will be
>>>> superb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> G.W. (George McDermith, Colorado Springs)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." -Philippians
>>>> 4:13
>>>>> (ESV)
>>>>>
>>>>> www.christian-gamers-guild.org/sof.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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