[nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Sun Feb 11 18:17:54 CST 2007 

Of course you are!!!  

Seriously, I am thinking of buying a digital camera.  Mike, you know me pretty well, and I think a lot of the stuff about blind photography is junk.  It is, as you say, blind and sighted alike trying to make blind persons sighted.

However, I am thinking of buying a camera for two reasons:

1.  I can get others to take pictures of me and my kids, and
2.  I am going to try and take pictures of my kids.  I figure I can take lots of pictures, and maybe with some coaching and practice, I can learn to get some usable shots.  Digital photography only takes storage space, and I can go through pictures with somebody, and discard the bad ones easily, and keep the good ones, storing them and/or getting them printed.

With film, this was to expensive to do -- and I tried a couple times.  There weren't enough good pictures to justify it, but with digital, if I take 50 pictures and discard 49, I get one good picture, and have only spent time.

Dave

At 10:47 AM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
>With respect, I remain a skeptic.
>
>Mike
>
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>From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher at bellsouth.net>
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>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>
>
>To me, it is just one more thing that we are capable of doing that some of
>us did not know we could do and that the world definitely does not know we
>can do. I don't think it goes much beond that.
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "'NFB Talk Mailing List'"
><nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:39 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>
>
>> Yeah, it shows that, but it doesn't, as this "shows something about the
>> blind" would imply, expose our soul or our inner selves to the world.
>> That
>> is what I was getting at.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Wm. Ritchhart
>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:07 AM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>
>> Yes it does show something!  A blind photographer can take just as crummy
>> or
>> just as good a picture as the average sighted person.
>>
>> I really cannot see the big deal.  Today for the most part, you point the
>> camera at the target and push the button.  What is the big deal
>> about that?
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler
>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:42 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>
>> Actually?  I wouldn't put too much into this whole idea of photographs
>> showing the viewer something about the blind person who took the photows.
>> Sounds like (pardon my language) artsy-fartsy talk for saying that
>> artistic
>> expression is an expression of a person's soul.  Not that I wholeheartedly
>> agree with that, but that is what I think those people are trying to say
>> when they say that the photos show them something about being blind.
>> LOL!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Brian Miller
>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:37 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>
>> I certainly think there is nothing wrong with wanting to understand how
>> photography works, take pictures, or have pictures taken of you to show to
>> others -- this is all part of understanding and engaging in a world that
>> is
>> relentlessly visual and driven by the photographic image.  However, I stop
>> short when the sighted assert that a blind guy taking pictures somehow
>> tells
>> them something about being blind, apart from the fact that the blind
>> person
>> is less likely to get off a good picture.
>>
>> Brian Miller
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>
>>
>>> GW:
>>>
>>> As I said, I have no objection to blind persons operating cameras
>> though I
>>> cannot for the life of me fathom what they (the blind persons) would
>> get
>> out
>>> of the exercise other than being able to play with nifty gadgetry.
>> Where I
>>> got off the train was when the one of the persons quoted in the
>> article
>>> maintained that viewing the photos would give the sighted a glimpse of
>> the
>>> world of the blind. To engage in aliteration for a moment, that's pure
>>> piffle!
>>>
>>> BTW, I think it's quite important that blind persons have some grasp
>> of
>> the
>>> visual arts, if for no other reason that they are part of the culture
>> we
>>> inhabit. So more power to you!
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "George McDermith" <blind_paladin at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:26 AM
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>>>
>>>
>>>             Greetings all!
>>>
>>>               I just joined up with the list and am pleased I did so.
>>> Engaging dialog seems to be the name of the game on this list.  I
>> should
>>> have expected it with RyanO and other delightful people I recognize
>>> involved.  *smile*
>>>
>>>               Regarding the blind photographer I think the issue can
>> be
>>> taken many different ways.  On the one hand of course passing is silly
>> and
>>> not useful.  On the other hand I find nothing harmful from my
>> viewpoint of
>>> doing something one enjoys, regardless of what it is.  If I enjoy
>> having
>>> pictures described to me at an art museum, an activity most view as a
>>> sighted one, am I attempting to be sighted?  Would individuals mistake
>> me
>>> for such, or would they view my different enjoyment of a common
>> activity
>> as
>>> an alternative technique.  Some of course will be ignorant, but they
>> will
>> be
>>> so regardless of whether I am doing something I enjoy or not.
>> Additionally
>>> I can take the opportunity to educate them on what blindness is and
>> isn't.
>>>
>>>               I believe this photo story falls into this category of
>> blind
>>> people doing something they enjoy.  My thoughts anyway, I am looking
>> forward
>>> to a great discussion on it.
>>>
>>>               Many thanks for having me on this list, it will be
>> superb.
>>>
>>>               Sincerely,
>>>
>>>               G.W. (George McDermith, Colorado Springs)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." -Philippians
>> 4:13
>>> (ESV)
>>>
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>>>
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