[nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

Cindy Handel cindy425 at verizon.net
Sat Feb 10 09:57:13 CST 2007 

I agree, Alan.  I have a digital camera that we take with us on cruises, so 
other people can take pictures for us.  I have tried to take pictures with 
it, before, and once got a pretty good picture of Jerry's dog, Ralph, with a 
Frisbee in his mouth.  But, it doesn't really mean anything about my inner 
self!  It's just a picture which happened to come out ok, because I could 
hear Ralph playing with the Frisbee.

Cindy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" 
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Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer


Yeah, it shows that, but it doesn't, as this "shows something about the
blind" would imply, expose our soul or our inner selves to the world.  That
is what I was getting at.



-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Wm. Ritchhart
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

Yes it does show something!  A blind photographer can take just as crummy or
just as good a picture as the average sighted person.

I really cannot see the big deal.  Today for the most part, you point the
camera at the target and push the button.  What is the big deal
about that?


William


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:42 PM
To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

Actually?  I wouldn't put too much into this whole idea of photographs
showing the viewer something about the blind person who took the photows.
Sounds like (pardon my language) artsy-fartsy talk for saying that artistic
expression is an expression of a person's soul.  Not that I wholeheartedly
agree with that, but that is what I think those people are trying to say
when they say that the photos show them something about being blind.
LOL!



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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer

I certainly think there is nothing wrong with wanting to understand how
photography works, take pictures, or have pictures taken of you to show to
others -- this is all part of understanding and engaging in a world that is
relentlessly visual and driven by the photographic image.  However, I stop
short when the sighted assert that a blind guy taking pictures somehow tells
them something about being blind, apart from the fact that the blind person
is less likely to get off a good picture.

Brian Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer


> GW:
>
> As I said, I have no objection to blind persons operating cameras
though I
> cannot for the life of me fathom what they (the blind persons) would
get
out
> of the exercise other than being able to play with nifty gadgetry.
Where I
> got off the train was when the one of the persons quoted in the
article
> maintained that viewing the photos would give the sighted a glimpse of
the
> world of the blind. To engage in aliteration for a moment, that's pure
> piffle!
>
> BTW, I think it's quite important that blind persons have some grasp
of
the
> visual arts, if for no other reason that they are part of the culture
we
> inhabit. So more power to you!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George McDermith" <blind_paladin at yahoo.com>
> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:26 AM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind Photographer
>
>
>             Greetings all!
>
>               I just joined up with the list and am pleased I did so.
> Engaging dialog seems to be the name of the game on this list.  I
should
> have expected it with RyanO and other delightful people I recognize
> involved.  *smile*
>
>               Regarding the blind photographer I think the issue can
be
> taken many different ways.  On the one hand of course passing is silly
and
> not useful.  On the other hand I find nothing harmful from my
viewpoint of
> doing something one enjoys, regardless of what it is.  If I enjoy
having
> pictures described to me at an art museum, an activity most view as a
> sighted one, am I attempting to be sighted?  Would individuals mistake
me
> for such, or would they view my different enjoyment of a common
activity
as
> an alternative technique.  Some of course will be ignorant, but they
will
be
> so regardless of whether I am doing something I enjoy or not.
Additionally
> I can take the opportunity to educate them on what blindness is and
isn't.
>
>               I believe this photo story falls into this category of
blind
> people doing something they enjoy.  My thoughts anyway, I am looking
forward
> to a great discussion on it.
>
>               Many thanks for having me on this list, it will be
superb.
>
>               Sincerely,
>
>               G.W. (George McDermith, Colorado Springs)
>
>
>
>   "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." -Philippians
4:13
> (ESV)
>
>   www.christian-gamers-guild.org/sof.html
>
>
>
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