[nfb-talk] Character Conversion Question

[David Andrews]

Please explain the problem to me again, off list, and I will delve 
into it with people who know more about Mailman then I.

Dave

At 12:48 AM 11/29/2007, you wrote:
>David,
>
>My setup is fetchmail, maildrop, and mutt.  That's "not standard" if your
>definition of standard is Outlook and nothing but.  The rest of us are
>going to be bitten by character set conversions because messages are
>coming across with illegal characters in them, after they've been
>stripped.
>
>The HTML to text scrubbing just doesn't work right.  The mailman people
>told me more than a year ago that you can't be using the standard thing
>they have because the thing they have hasn't had these problems for
>several years now.
>
>Perhaps you have a recent mailman calling an older HTML-stripping script
>that is left over from a previous version?
>
>
>I can tell you, with certainty, that it is illegal according to the RFC
>to have two text/plain attachments as part of a multipart/alternative MIME
>block.  I don't do any scripts changing my messages in any way, and I get
>that result.  First there's the text/plain part generated by Outlook,
>which is properly 7-bit ASCII.  Then there's the part generated from the
>HTML, which lies about its encoding and charset.
>
>If Outlook is your standard, then there's no reason to strip out the HTML
>at all.  Just defang and remote image tags and scripts that come through.
>Those of us who have non-HTML mail readers (like mutt) will just have to
>install the appropriate inline MIME viewers.  I will be happy to assist
>you with HTML defanging in about two weeks when my classes end.  =)
>
>On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:38:20PM -0600, David Andrews wrote:
> > Joseph:
> >
> > First, I will say that I am not an expert in mime encoding, html
> > messages etc.  So, there could be settings I could do to change
> > things.  However, I will also say that we are not removing
> > attachments or doing any kind of nonstandard scrubbing.  We use
> > Mailman and sendmail, with mostly standard settings, as do thousands
> > of other lists.
> >
> > I believe you use a somewhat non-standard setup, and I don't see a
> > lot of conversion problems or complaints.
> >
> > Different mail programs handle things in different ways, and users
> > can fiddle with things, so it may well not be us.
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