[nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov
Tue Oct 31 06:31:13 CST 2006
Hi William and Dar;
Your talk about jumbo Braille has made me come up with an idea. Why
doesn't HW make a Braille display, maybe a 16 cell, with jumbo Braille,
for people with your problems. William, why don't you write to them and
suggest it to them. Make sure they know it would help not only
diabetics, but people with nerve damage in their hands.
Let me know what you think. If they can make a jumbo brailler, they
should be able to make a jumbo display. By the way, I am talking about
an attachable one. This way it can be connected to the unit when
needed, like the folding one they have now.
Terry Powers
This would prevent them from making a whole new unit for a small
minority.
-----Original Message-----
From: dmgina [mailto:dmgina at qwest.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:35 PM
To: william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net; NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
So far I haven't had to go to jumbo Braille,
I am sorry if you had to do this already.
I too am a diabetic.
--Dar
wishing a
backTpack
call me at
406-259-1124
Every Saint has a past,
Every sinner has a future ,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> No it is not. But for people with nerve damage in their finger tips
> from diabetes, it is a help.
>
>
> William
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of dianefilipe at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:17 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>
> One thing my braille instructor said to me is "the world isn't written
> in
> jumbo braille!" Or grade 1, huh? Oh well! Di -------Original
> Message------- From: David Evans Date: 10/25/2006 11:35:47 AM To:
NFB
> Talk Mailing List Cc: Tom Anderson Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth
> Empowerment Dear Di, I know the problem. I mostly use jumbo
Braille
> because I have trouble feeling the separations between cells. I still
> use regular Braille too, but I have both standard and jumbo slates and
> use them both. The jumbo is just easier to read most of the time. You
> can even get Jumbo Braille writers too. The dots are still the same
> size, but there is slightly more spacing between them. -----
Original
> Message ----- From: <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com> To: "NFB Talk Mailing
> List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> Cc: "Tom Anderson"
<tanderson at cocenter.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth
> Empowerment I know I am lucky to have learned the slate and stylus
> first! Having some neuropathy in these very used hands, the reading
has
> been challenging! If only the dots were as hard as cement, I could
feel
> them! Di -------Original Message------- From: Tai Schmittroth
Date:
> 10/23/2006 8:01:51 PM To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List' Subject: Re:
> [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment Be glad you learned the slate and
stylus
> first. I learned the Brailler first and I am really slow at the slate.
I
> practice a great deal, but I feel that learning the Brailler first
> really hindered my ability to write fast with the slate because I did
> not learn it from a young age and have not had the time required to
gain
> writing speed. Had I learned as a child, I would have had more time to
> practice and would probably be a much faster slate user. The same
> principle is true for reading Braille--the younger you learn, the
faster
> you will read. Of course, these are generalizations, but they hold
true
> for most folks. Tai -----Original Message----- From:
> nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of dianefilipe at peoplepc.com Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:42
> PM To: NFB Talk Mailing List Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> I do really well with the slate and stylus, but have a heck of a time
> with the Braille writer! I guess cos' I learned the slate and stylus
> first!!! My instructor at CCB, Tom Anderson was incredible! Di
> -------Original Message------- From: David Andrews Date:
> 10/22/2006 6:16:02 PM To: NFB Talk Mailing List Subject: Re:
> [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment The best way to learn the slate
well
> is to start using it before you use a Braille Writer.n Then you
have
> to be good. However most VI teachers eiteher don't know it, or
aren't
> good, so they don't push their students. Dave At 07:39
AM
> 10/20/2006, you wrote: >And this also brings up another point. Since
> technology can break down >and >things and then you have to send it
> back to get it repaired. Why aren't >young people being taught the
> most reliable and inexpensive way to braille? >That is, using a
slate
> and stylus? Something I wish I were taught when >I was >growing up
in
> the 1980s and through the mid 90s. > >Josh > >skype: jkenn337
>>email: jkenn337 at kutztown.edu >aol: kutztownstudent >msn messenger:
> kenn6498ku at hotmail.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From:
> "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com> >To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> >Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:16 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > > > >I like the
> thinking...start 'em young. *SMILE* > > > > Seriously, Judy, it
> makes a lot of sense. I'll be curious to see > > the > > answer >
>
> to your question. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >
> From: "Judy Jones" <nfbwatac at earthlink.net> > > To: "NFB Talk
Mailing
> List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006
2:41
> PM > > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > > > > > >>
> Hi, Mike, > >> > >> Your insightful message makes me wonder
> something: Do the states > >> that > >> have > >> really active
> parent divisions with the NFB see more young people coming > >> into
> leadership positions? In other words, if kids grow up around > >> the
>> >> movement, are they likely to stay with the movement? > >> > >>
> Judy > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mike
> Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> > >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:01 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > >> > >> > >>>
> Lest we be accused of being the pot that called the kettle black > >>>
> (and I > >>> know Judy did not do this), if we are honest with
> ourselves, we > >>> will > >>> realize that, at least in this neck
of
> the woods, it's getting > >>> increasingly difficult to turn out
> droves of blind persons for > >>> legislative hearings and such, no
> matter how important they may > >>> be. WE > >>> who are older have
> incurred many obligations which we cannot or > >>> are > >>>
unwilling
> to get out of for last-minute NFB tasks and the young > >>> have >
>>>
> their MP3 players, the Internet and the like which they judge to > >>>
> be far > >>> more interesting than having to sit thru some boring >
>>>> appropriations > >>> hearing or even a hearing on something about
> which they care if > >>> the NFB > >>> testimony is about eighth in
or
> worse of the bills being considered. For > >>> what it is worth, I
> don't think *any* of us, given the Internet > >>> and all > >>> the
> information coming at us, feel the sense of community, > >>>
comeraderie
>> >>> and being in the same foxhole with brothers and sisters that we >
>>>> did > >>> when, say, we were fighting for the various White Cane
> Laws, the > >>> right > >>> of blind persons to serve on juries or,
to
> make things local to my > >>> state, struggling to break the School
> for the Blind out of the > >>> welfare > >>> department. > >>> >
>>>> So aside from the truism that we must make friends with the young >
>>>> and > >>> show some interest in what they're doing, we face the
> task of > >>> making > >>> activism fun again and showing the young
> that they have a real > >>> stake in > >>> the future -- not an easy
> task when, for the first time, young > >>> people ma > >>> end up
with
> a lesser standard of living than we have. > >>> > >>> Mike > >>>
>> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Judy Jones wrote: > >>> > >>>> Very well
> put. Who ever heard of Disabled Student Services when > >>>> we >
>>>>> went > >>>> through school in the sixties and seventies? >
>>>>
>> >>>> Judy > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>
> From: "Ryan O." <rosentowski at neb.rr.com> > >>>> To: "NFB Talk
Mailing
> List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006
> 9:40 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > >>>>
>
>>>>> > >>>>> The blindness world is still rife with youth. The
problem
> is > >>>>> that > >>>>> they've > >>>>> had a good deal handed to
> them through legislation, technology > >>>>> and > >>>>> monetary
>
>>>>>> advantage that wasn't available to previous generations. >
>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> RyanO > >>>>> > >>>>>
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