[nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
dmgina
dmgina at qwest.net
Sat Oct 28 21:35:28 CDT 2006
So far I haven't had to go to jumbo Braille,
I am sorry if you had to do this already.
I too am a diabetic.
--Dar
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Every sinner has a future ,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> No it is not. But for people with nerve damage in their finger tips
> from diabetes, it is a help.
>
>
> William
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of dianefilipe at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:17 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>
> One thing my braille instructor said to me is "the world isn't written
> in
> jumbo braille!" Or grade 1, huh? Oh well! Di -------Original
> Message------- From: David Evans Date: 10/25/2006 11:35:47 AM To: NFB
> Talk Mailing List Cc: Tom Anderson Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth
> Empowerment Dear Di, I know the problem. I mostly use jumbo Braille
> because I have trouble feeling the separations between cells. I still
> use regular Braille too, but I have both standard and jumbo slates and
> use them both. The jumbo is just easier to read most of the time. You
> can even get Jumbo Braille writers too. The dots are still the same
> size, but there is slightly more spacing between them. ----- Original
> Message ----- From: <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com> To: "NFB Talk Mailing
> List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> Cc: "Tom Anderson" <tanderson at cocenter.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth
> Empowerment I know I am lucky to have learned the slate and stylus
> first! Having some neuropathy in these very used hands, the reading has
> been challenging! If only the dots were as hard as cement, I could feel
> them! Di -------Original Message------- From: Tai Schmittroth Date:
> 10/23/2006 8:01:51 PM To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List' Subject: Re:
> [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment Be glad you learned the slate and stylus
> first. I learned the Brailler first and I am really slow at the slate. I
> practice a great deal, but I feel that learning the Brailler first
> really hindered my ability to write fast with the slate because I did
> not learn it from a young age and have not had the time required to gain
> writing speed. Had I learned as a child, I would have had more time to
> practice and would probably be a much faster slate user. The same
> principle is true for reading Braille--the younger you learn, the faster
> you will read. Of course, these are generalizations, but they hold true
> for most folks. Tai -----Original Message----- From:
> nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of dianefilipe at peoplepc.com Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:42
> PM To: NFB Talk Mailing List Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> I do really well with the slate and stylus, but have a heck of a time
> with the Braille writer! I guess cos' I learned the slate and stylus
> first!!! My instructor at CCB, Tom Anderson was incredible! Di
> -------Original Message------- From: David Andrews Date:
> 10/22/2006 6:16:02 PM To: NFB Talk Mailing List Subject: Re:
> [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment The best way to learn the slate well
> is to start using it before you use a Braille Writer.n Then you have
> to be good. However most VI teachers eiteher don't know it, or aren't
> good, so they don't push their students. Dave At 07:39 AM
> 10/20/2006, you wrote: >And this also brings up another point. Since
> technology can break down >and >things and then you have to send it
> back to get it repaired. Why aren't >young people being taught the
> most reliable and inexpensive way to braille? >That is, using a slate
> and stylus? Something I wish I were taught when >I was >growing up in
> the 1980s and through the mid 90s. > >Josh > >skype: jkenn337
>>email: jkenn337 at kutztown.edu >aol: kutztownstudent >msn messenger:
> kenn6498ku at hotmail.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From:
> "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com> >To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> >Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:16 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > > > >I like the
> thinking...start 'em young. *SMILE* > > > > Seriously, Judy, it
> makes a lot of sense. I'll be curious to see > > the > > answer > >
> to your question. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >
> From: "Judy Jones" <nfbwatac at earthlink.net> > > To: "NFB Talk Mailing
> List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:41
> PM > > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > > > > > >>
> Hi, Mike, > >> > >> Your insightful message makes me wonder
> something: Do the states > >> that > >> have > >> really active
> parent divisions with the NFB see more young people coming > >> into
> leadership positions? In other words, if kids grow up around > >> the
>> >> movement, are they likely to stay with the movement? > >> > >>
> Judy > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mike
> Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> > >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:01 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > >> > >> > >>>
> Lest we be accused of being the pot that called the kettle black > >>>
> (and I > >>> know Judy did not do this), if we are honest with
> ourselves, we > >>> will > >>> realize that, at least in this neck of
> the woods, it's getting > >>> increasingly difficult to turn out
> droves of blind persons for > >>> legislative hearings and such, no
> matter how important they may > >>> be. WE > >>> who are older have
> incurred many obligations which we cannot or > >>> are > >>> unwilling
> to get out of for last-minute NFB tasks and the young > >>> have > >>>
> their MP3 players, the Internet and the like which they judge to > >>>
> be far > >>> more interesting than having to sit thru some boring >
>>>> appropriations > >>> hearing or even a hearing on something about
> which they care if > >>> the NFB > >>> testimony is about eighth in or
> worse of the bills being considered. For > >>> what it is worth, I
> don't think *any* of us, given the Internet > >>> and all > >>> the
> information coming at us, feel the sense of community, > >>> comeraderie
>> >>> and being in the same foxhole with brothers and sisters that we >
>>>> did > >>> when, say, we were fighting for the various White Cane
> Laws, the > >>> right > >>> of blind persons to serve on juries or, to
> make things local to my > >>> state, struggling to break the School
> for the Blind out of the > >>> welfare > >>> department. > >>> >
>>>> So aside from the truism that we must make friends with the young >
>>>> and > >>> show some interest in what they're doing, we face the
> task of > >>> making > >>> activism fun again and showing the young
> that they have a real > >>> stake in > >>> the future -- not an easy
> task when, for the first time, young > >>> people ma > >>> end up with
> a lesser standard of living than we have. > >>> > >>> Mike > >>>
>> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Judy Jones wrote: > >>> > >>>> Very well
> put. Who ever heard of Disabled Student Services when > >>>> we >
>>>>> went > >>>> through school in the sixties and seventies? > >>>>
>> >>>> Judy > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>
> From: "Ryan O." <rosentowski at neb.rr.com> > >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing
> List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006
> 9:40 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment > >>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>> The blindness world is still rife with youth. The problem
> is > >>>>> that > >>>>> they've > >>>>> had a good deal handed to
> them through legislation, technology > >>>>> and > >>>>> monetary >
>>>>>> advantage that wasn't available to previous generations. > >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> RyanO > >>>>> > >>>>>
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