[nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
dianefilipe at peoplepc.com
dianefilipe at peoplepc.com
Mon Oct 23 20:41:45 CDT 2006
I do really well with the slate and stylus, but have a heck of a time with
the Braille writer! I guess cos' I learned the slate and stylus first!!!
My instructor at CCB, Tom Anderson was incredible!
Di
-------Original Message-------
From: David Andrews
Date: 10/22/2006 6:16:02 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
The best way to learn the slate well is to start using it before you
use a Braille Writer.n Then you have to be good. However most VI
teachers eiteher don't know it, or aren't good, so they don't push
their students.
Dave
At 07:39 AM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
>And this also brings up another point. Since technology can break down and
>things and then you have to send it back to get it repaired. Why aren't
>young people being taught the most reliable and inexpensive way to braille?
>That is, using a slate and stylus? Something I wish I were taught when I
was
>growing up in the 1980s and through the mid 90s.
>
>Josh
>
>skype: jkenn337
>email: jkenn337 at kutztown.edu
>aol: kutztownstudent
>msn messenger: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>
>
> >I like the thinking...start 'em young. *SMILE*
> >
> > Seriously, Judy, it makes a lot of sense. I'll be curious to see the
> > answer
> > to your question.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judy Jones" <nfbwatac at earthlink.net>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> >
> >
> >> Hi, Mike,
> >>
> >> Your insightful message makes me wonder something: Do the states that
> >> have
> >> really active parent divisions with the NFB see more young people
coming
> >> into leadership positions? In other words, if kids grow up around the
> >> movement, are they likely to stay with the movement?
> >>
> >> Judy
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:01 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> >>
> >>
> >>> Lest we be accused of being the pot that called the kettle black (and
I
> >>> know Judy did not do this), if we are honest with ourselves, we will
> >>> realize that, at least in this neck of the woods, it's getting
> >>> increasingly difficult to turn out droves of blind persons for
> >>> legislative hearings and such, no matter how important they may be. WE
> >>> who are older have incurred many obligations which we cannot or are
> >>> unwilling to get out of for last-minute NFB tasks and the young have
> >>> their MP3 players, the Internet and the like which they judge to be
far
> >>> more interesting than having to sit thru some boring appropriations
> >>> hearing or even a hearing on something about which they care if the
NFB
> >>> testimony is about eighth in or worse of the bills being considered.
For
> >>> what it is worth, I don't think *any* of us, given the Internet and
all
> >>> the information coming at us, feel the sense of community, comeraderie
> >>> and being in the same foxhole with brothers and sisters that we did
> >>> when, say, we were fighting for the various White Cane Laws, the right
> >>> of blind persons to serve on juries or, to make things local to my
> >>> state, struggling to break the School for the Blind out of the welfare
> >>> department.
> >>>
> >>> So aside from the truism that we must make friends with the young and
> >>> show some interest in what they're doing, we face the task of making
> >>> activism fun again and showing the young that they have a real stake
in
> >>> the future -- not an easy task when, for the first time, young people
ma
> >>> end up with a lesser standard of living than we have.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Judy Jones wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Very well put. Who ever heard of Disabled Student Services when we
> >>>> went
> >>>> through school in the sixties and seventies?
> >>>>
> >>>> Judy
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Ryan O." <rosentowski at neb.rr.com>
> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:40 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The blindness world is still rife with youth. The problem is that
> >>>>> they've
> >>>>> had a good deal handed to them through legislation, technology and
> >>>>> monetary
> >>>>> advantage that wasn't available to previous generations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RyanO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
> >>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> nfb-talk mailing list
> >>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> nfb-talk mailing list
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> >>>
> >>
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I do really well with the slate and stylus, but have a heck of a time with the Braille writer! I guess cos' I learned the slate and stylus first!!!
My instructor at CCB, Tom Anderson was incredible!
Di
-------Original Message-------
From:
mailto:dandrews at visi.com David Andrews
Date:
10/22/2006 6:16:02 PM
To:
mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject:
Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
The best way to learn the slate well is to start using it before you
use a Braille Writer.n Then you have to be good. However most VI
teachers eiteher don't know it, or aren't good, so they don't push
their students.
Dave
At 07:39 AM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
>And this also brings up another point. Since technology can break down and
>things and then you have to send it back to get it repaired. Why aren't
>young people being taught the most reliable and inexpensive way to braille?
>That is, using a slate and stylus? Something I wish I were taught when I was
>growing up in the 1980s and through the mid 90s.
>
>Josh
>
>skype: jkenn337
>email: mailto:jkenn337 at kutztown.edu jkenn337 at kutztown.edu
>aol: kutztownstudent
>msn messenger: mailto:kenn6498ku at hotmail.com kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alan Wheeler" < mailto:awheeler at neb.rr.com awheeler at neb.rr.com
>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>
>
> >I like the thinking...start 'em young. *SMILE*
> >
> > Seriously, Judy, it makes a lot of sense. I'll be curious to see the
> > answer
> > to your question.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judy Jones" < mailto:nfbwatac at earthlink.net nfbwatac at earthlink.net
>
> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> >
> >
> >> Hi, Mike,
> >>
> >> Your insightful message makes me wonder something: Do the states that
> >> have
> >> really active parent divisions with the NFB see more young people coming
> >> into leadership positions? In other words, if kids grow up around the
> >> movement, are they likely to stay with the movement?
> >>
> >> Judy
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mike Freeman" < mailto:k7uij at panix.com k7uij at panix.com
>
> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:01 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> >>
> >>
> >>> Lest we be accused of being the pot that called the kettle black (and I
> >>> know Judy did not do this), if we are honest with ourselves, we will
> >>> realize that, at least in this neck of the woods, it's getting
> >>> increasingly difficult to turn out droves of blind persons for
> >>> legislative hearings and such, no matter how important they may be. WE
> >>> who are older have incurred many obligations which we cannot or are
> >>> unwilling to get out of for last-minute NFB tasks and the young have
> >>> their MP3 players, the Internet and the like which they judge to be far
> >>> more interesting than having to sit thru some boring appropriations
> >>> hearing or even a hearing on something about which they care if the NFB
> >>> testimony is about eighth in or worse of the bills being considered. For
> >>> what it is worth, I don't think *any* of us, given the Internet and all
> >>> the information coming at us, feel the sense of community, comeraderie
> >>> and being in the same foxhole with brothers and sisters that we did
> >>> when, say, we were fighting for the various White Cane Laws, the right
> >>> of blind persons to serve on juries or, to make things local to my
> >>> state, struggling to break the School for the Blind out of the welfare
> >>> department.
> >>>
> >>> So aside from the truism that we must make friends with the young and
> >>> show some interest in what they're doing, we face the task of making
> >>> activism fun again and showing the young that they have a real stake in
> >>> the future -- not an easy task when, for the first time, young people ma
> >>> end up with a lesser standard of living than we have.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Judy Jones wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Very well put. Who ever heard of Disabled Student Services when we
> >>>> went
> >>>> through school in the sixties and seventies?
> >>>>
> >>>> Judy
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Ryan O." < mailto:rosentowski at neb.rr.com rosentowski at neb.rr.com
>
> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" < mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:40 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The blindness world is still rife with youth. The problem is that
> >>>>> they've
> >>>>> had a good deal handed to them through legislation, technology and
> >>>>> monetary
> >>>>> advantage that wasn't available to previous generations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RyanO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> nfb-talk mailing list
> >>>>> mailto:nfb-talk at nfbnet.org nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> nfb-talk mailing list
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> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>
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