[nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment

Judy Jones nfbwatac at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 23 13:54:07 CDT 2006 

Hi, David,

Kudos to you for your persistence and your advocacy of braille.

Judy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment


>
> Dear All,
>
> Several years ago, I taught myself basic Braille.
> I tried to get a local person to teach me, but it did not work out.
> Then I asked Dr. Jernigan what he thought I should do about learning 
> Braill.
> I wrote about this in a Braille Monitor piece some years ago called, 
> "What's
> In Your Tool Box?"
> He advised me to take a class through the Hadley School for the Blind 
> called
> "Relevant Braille."
> I did this and being the impatient type learner and was using basic 
> Braille
> to write down my personal messages in just 3 weeks working on my own.
> I got Hadley's certification in Grade One Braille after sending in all of 
> my
> lessons, but I learned to write and read Braille using a slate .
> I think that anyone who learns to write on a slate first has an easier 
> time
> going to a Braille writer afterward, whereas those who learn on the 
> Braille
> writer first seem to have a hard time going to the slate.
> Maybe it is because writing on the slate takes concentration on dot 
> position
> more than the Braille writer.
> All I know is that I use both, but most times I just put out my slate and
> almost never even think of the Braille writer.
> I carry at least 2 slates with me all of the time.
> Learning on a slate, in my opinion, is the best way to learn your basic
> Braille for life.
>
> David Evans, NFBF
> Nuclear/Aerospace Materials Engineer
> Builder of the Lunar Rovers and the IF-117 Stealth Fighter
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>
>
>> The best way to learn the slate well is to start using it before you
>> use a Braille Writer.n  Then you have to be good.  However most VI
>> teachers eiteher don't know it, or aren't good, so they don't push
>> their students.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 07:39 AM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
>>>And this also brings up another point. Since technology can break down 
>>>and
>>>things and then you have to send it back to get it repaired. Why aren't
>>>young people being taught the most reliable and inexpensive way to
>>>braille?
>>>That is, using a slate and stylus? Something I wish I were taught when I
>>>was
>>>growing up in the 1980s and through the mid 90s.
>>>
>>>Josh
>>>
>>>skype: jkenn337
>>>email: jkenn337 at kutztown.edu
>>>aol: kutztownstudent
>>>msn messenger: kenn6498ku at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:16 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>>>
>>>
>>> >I like the thinking...start 'em young. *SMILE*
>>> >
>>> > Seriously, Judy, it makes a lot of sense.  I'll be curious to see the
>>> > answer
>>> > to your question.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Judy Jones" <nfbwatac at earthlink.net>
>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:41 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hi, Mike,
>>> >>
>>> >> Your insightful message makes me wonder something:  Do the states 
>>> >> that
>>> >> have
>>> >> really active parent divisions with the NFB see more young people
>>> >> coming
>>> >> into leadership positions?  In other words, if kids grow up around 
>>> >> the
>>> >> movement, are they likely to stay with the movement?
>>> >>
>>> >> Judy
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:01 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Lest we be accused of being the pot that called the kettle black 
>>> >>> (and
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> know Judy did not do this), if we are honest with ourselves, we will
>>> >>> realize that, at least in this neck of the woods, it's getting
>>> >>> increasingly difficult to turn out droves of blind persons for
>>> >>> legislative hearings and such, no matter how important they may be.
>>> >>> WE
>>> >>> who are older have incurred many obligations which we cannot or are
>>> >>> unwilling to get out of for last-minute NFB tasks and the young have
>>> >>> their MP3 players, the Internet and the like which they judge to be
>>> >>> far
>>> >>> more interesting than having to sit thru some boring appropriations
>>> >>> hearing or even a hearing on something about which they care if the
>>> >>> NFB
>>> >>> testimony is about eighth in or worse of the bills being considered.
>>> >>> For
>>> >>> what it is worth, I don't think *any* of us, given the Internet and
>>> >>> all
>>> >>> the information coming at us, feel the sense of community,
>>> >>> comeraderie
>>> >>> and being in the same foxhole with brothers and sisters that we did
>>> >>> when, say, we were fighting for the various White Cane Laws, the
>>> >>> right
>>> >>> of blind persons to serve on juries or, to make things local to my
>>> >>> state, struggling to break the School for the Blind out of the
>>> >>> welfare
>>> >>> department.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So aside from the truism that we must make friends with the young 
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> show some interest in what they're doing, we face the task of making
>>> >>> activism fun again and showing the young that they have a real stake
>>> >>> in
>>> >>> the future -- not an easy task when, for the first time, young 
>>> >>> people
>>> >>> ma
>>> >>> end up with a lesser standard of living than we have.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mike
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Judy Jones wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Very well put.  Who ever heard of Disabled Student Services when we
>>> >>>> went
>>> >>>> through school in the sixties and seventies?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Judy
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>> From: "Ryan O." <rosentowski at neb.rr.com>
>>> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:40 AM
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Youth Empowerment
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> The blindness world is still rife with youth. The problem is that
>>> >>>>> they've
>>> >>>>> had a good deal handed to them through legislation, technology and
>>> >>>>> monetary
>>> >>>>> advantage that wasn't available to previous generations.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> RyanO
>>> >>>>>
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>> David Andrews and white cane Harry.
>>
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