[nfb-talk] Blind people deserve alibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!

[David Evans]

Dear RJ,

Tom is a well known member of the ACB who just likes to mess with us.
His assertions do not hold water and he just sends these messages to upset 
us.  He has been thrown off our list before and he then just signs up for 
another one to bug us until he gets thrown of this one, again.
He tries to make it sound as if what he is saying is a fact and that it is 
wrong for the NFB to use it's own service with a devoted section of that 
service to carry NFB messages and materials.
He says that the NFB is getting too big.
since when is being big or getting bigger a crime.
To hear him tell it the NFB is doing something illegal, underhanded and 
immoral by running the NFB NEWSLINE service that provides daily access to 
more than 235 newspapers and magazines, free and just because NFB provides 
information on it's channels feature we are doing something wrong.
NFB is not doing anything wrong or illegal.
He is not expressing an opinion, he is leveling unfounded charges of 
misconduct at the NFB.  That is not an opinion, it is a false charge and our 
members are calling him on it.
He is a trouble maker from the ACB and has no right or place making such 
unfounded assertions.
If he wants to stick his tongue out at us, he needs to be prepared to get 
his face slapped.
As for you.  I thought you resigned the NFB and asked to be removed from the 
list?
If you want to learn how to be a better blind person stick around, but if 
you don't like us stop wasting our time and find another sandbox to play in.
Mr. Mills needs to get a life or a job.
I heard about an opening for a speed bump and I think he would make a good 
one.

David Evans, NFBF
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RJ Sandefur" <rjs59 at hotmail.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve 
alibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!


> You should all be ashamed of you'reselves! You are all acting like 
> children!
> Tom Mills has a right to voice his openion, and if you don't agree, with
> what he has to say, you can always press the deleate button. I left the 
> nfb,
> due to this varry reason, and I feel that as  a minister of the gospel, 
> the
> way you're approaching this situation is wrong! Sencerly, RJ Sandefur
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein at verizon.net>
> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a
> libraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>
>
>> Thank you Terry!
>> I mean it whole heartedly. What we need to do is to be unified. If people
>> do not agree with the good that the NFB is doing then they can just leave
>> us alone.
>>
>> Smile
>> Hope
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> .From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]"<powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
>> .Sent: 7/24/06 11:01:44 AM
>> .To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a
>> libraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>> .
>> .Hope;
>> .Great message.
>> .Terry Powers
>> .
>> .
>> .-----Original Message-----
>> .From: Hope Hein [mailto:hmhein at verizon.net]
>> .Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:22 AM
>> .To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library
>> .experiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>> .
>> .I have reviewed the newspapers from NFB Newsline and have read several
>> .downloaded through Bookshare. I read one paper from Florida and another
>> .from PA in the same sitting. I did not have to travel to Florida to get
>> .that paper. If I had more time I could read the papers from all of the
>> .participating states.
>> .
>> .Please do not put the NFB down. I have been a member of the NFB of PA
>> .for a little over one year. I attended my first convention in over 20
>> .years this year and was truly inspired. The NFB members that I know and
>> .read about are not stubborn; that is a negative term, they are
>> .determined! Determined to educate blind and sighted persons about the
>> .true meaning of blindness. Determined to train blind persons so that
>> .they can obtain gainful employment just like their sighted colleagues.
>> .Determined that the blind should have access to books, news, the
>> .internet, as well as user-friendly technology. The leaders of the NFB
>> .think big. If that is stubborn then let stubbornness reign.
>> .
>> .As the inch worm burrows his way to his destination inch by inch the NFB
>> .will break down societal barriers one by one to change what it means to
>> .be blind.
>> .Hope
>> .
>> .-----Original Message-----
>> ..From: "Tom Mills"<tmills79 at bellsouth.net>
>> ..Sent: 7/22/06 1:46:15 AM
>> ..To: "william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net"<william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>,
>> ."NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> ..Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library
>> .experiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>> ..
>> ..The trouble with most members of the federation is a complete always
>> ..stubborn resistance to suggestions for change.  Every one on this list
>> .knows
>> ..that I have questioned the fairness and management of the NFB News Line
>> .news
>> ..paper Service.
>> ..----- Original Message ----- 
>> ..From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>> ..To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> ..Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:30 AM
>> ..Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience
>> ..readingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>> ..
>> ..
>> ..> Did I miss something?  Considering that the only thing I have seen
>> .about
>> ..> NFB Newsline recently was a post from the ACB leadership list
>> ..> encouraging the ACB membership to try to stop the Federal funding for
>> ..> NFB Newsline.
>> ..>
>> ..> The post made claims that any knowledgeable person would recognize as
>> ..> untrue.  In the normal ACB fashion, the post demonstrated that if NFB
>> .is
>> ..> creating something, the members of the ACB in general will be against
>> ..> it.
>> ..>
>> ..> One last thing.  I have a question for you Tom.  Why do you bother
>> .with
>> ..> us NFB folks?  I personally wouldn't waste my time with people whom I
>> ..> thought were so evil and always wrong.  It just seems that you could
>> ..> find a better use of your time doing something other than making
>> .angry
>> ..> post to an email list made up mostly of people who have beliefs that
>> .are
>> ..> totally different from your own.
>> ..>
>> ..>
>> ..>
>> ..> William
>> ..>
>> ..>
>> ..> -----Original Message-----
>> ..> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> .[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> ..> On Behalf Of Tom Mills
>> ..> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:15 AM
>> ..> To: 4alabama at nfbnet.org
>> ..> Cc: nfblaw at nfbnet.org; alabama at acb.org; acb-l at acb.org;
>> ..> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org; acb-chat at acb.org
>> ..> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience reading
>> ..> thenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>> ..>
>> ..> I too wonder where the blind community is when they turn their backs
>> .on
>> ..> decency and respect for an unbiased library experience while reading
>> .the
>> ..>
>> ..> Alabama NFB News Line Service. The Federation is more interested in
>> ..> promoting its blind advocacy program; like filing frivolous law suits
>> ..> mostly
>> ..> for the sake of publicity and all the while knowing that most
>> .government
>> ..>
>> ..> agencies and big business concerns will quietly settle crappy law
>> .suits
>> ..> in
>> ..> the legal settlement mill. Remember I am talking about the National
>> ..> Federation of the Blind! The NFB News Line should never be used to
>> ..> promote
>> ..> NFB's advocacy positions and federation policies. Also, the Alabama
>> ..> chapter
>> ..> of the National Federation of the Blind should not be permitted to
>> .use
>> ..> the
>> ..> NFB News Line Service to advance the reputation of Mister J. Michael
>> ..> Jones,
>> ..> the Alabama affiliates state NFB president.  NFB President Doctor
>> .Marc
>> ..> Maurer has said that the NFB News Line Service has "A Special
>> ..> relationship
>> ..> with the news paper industry publishers participating on News Line."
>> .Let
>> ..> me
>> ..> tell you something all you girls and guys, that frightens me!  I
>> .believe
>> ..>
>> ..> that the NFB News Line Service should be held above any and all
>> .politics
>> ..> for
>> ..> the sake of the blind community and most of all to provide blind news
>> ..> paper
>> ..> readers an honest library experience.
>> ..>
>> ..>
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