[nfb-talk] Blind people deserve alibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!

Mon Jul 24 06:04:25 CDT 2006

Hi Dave!
Could you please add me to the NFBCS technology list?
Thank you.
Hope

-----Original Message-----
.From: "David Andrews"<dandrews at visi.com>
.Sent: 7/24/06 12:54:26 AM
.To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve alibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
.
.The reform is only needed in your mind.  You are making vague 
.accusations, but no specifics.  I accept that you aren't comfortable 
.with things, but you are so unspecific to be meaningless.
.
.Dave
.
.At 10:49 AM 7/23/2006, you wrote:
.>Excuse me!  regardless of what has been traditional practices for the NFB
.>News Line service such as bulletin boards for advocate groups like the
.>National Federation of the Blind, News Line should never be considered
.>anyone's own personal fiefdom or still worse yet just another domicile for
.>every
.>blind brown noser and NFB hack that comes along! The reason that I continue
.>to grace you with my presence is quite possibly because like you I believe
.>that continued persistence will bring about much needed reform.  The
.>intended purpose of News Line and its professed mandate to deliver
.>accessible News papers to the blind community simply rings hollow when
.>dominated by a biggest bully on the block attitude.      ----- Original
.>Message -----
.>From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
.>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.>Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:18 AM
.>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a
.>libraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
.>
.>
.> > Tom,
.> >
.> > You are showing that you don't know what you are talking about.  NFB
.> > Newsline's purpose from the start has been to deliver newspapers to the
.> > blind at no charge to the blind subscriber.  It's original purpose has
.> > also been to provide a special channel for each states sponsor of
.> > Newsline.  In Indiana that channel is used by the Indiana State Library
.> > and the NFB of Indiana.  NFB Newsline is not being used for anything
.> > different today.
.> >
.> > So I suggest you either state solid facts with proof to back them up or
.> > shut up.
.> >
.> >
.> >
.> > William
.> >
.> >
.> > -----Original Message-----
.> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
.> > On Behalf Of Tom Mills
.> > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:00 AM
.> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
.> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library
.> > experiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
.> >
.> > I think the NFB News Line news paper service has quite possibly
.> > over-reached
.> > its intended purpose. I do not know of any other organization like NFB
.> > News
.> > Line. It is apparent to me that information based on your Email that
.> > News
.> > Line has become to big and powerful that is in need of a major down
.> > sizing.
.> > I feel that my criticism of News Line is justified and Appreciated by
.> > the
.> > Nation Office of the National Federation of the Blind.    ----- Original
.> >
.> > Message -----
.> > From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
.> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:29 PM
.> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience
.> > readingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
.> >
.> >
.> >> Tom:
.> >>
.> >> As usual you are trying to create a problem, th4en use it to beat on
.> > the
.> >> NFB.  As William said, if we are so evil, why do you stick around.
.> > You
.> >> make yourself a nuisance on one list, get moderated, then move to
.> > another.
.> >> Is NFB-talk your latest target?
.> >>
.> >> And, as for Newsline, each state has a local channel where a variety
.> > of
.> >> publications can be put.  In MN for example we have newsletters from
.> > both
.> >> NFB and acb state affiliates, the Library for the blind newsletter,
.> >> transit news, and the schedule for our radio reading service.  We will
.> > add
.> >> Minnesota Monthly soon.
.> >>
.> >> This is the only potential place on Newsline where stuff other then
.> >> newspapers would be.  The only people politicizing Newsline are the
.> > ACB
.> >> who use it, but oppose it at every turn because it is from the NFB.
.> > If
.> >> you take away opposition to the NFB from the ACB, little is left.
.> >>
.> >> Dave
.> >>
.> >> At 12:46 AM 7/22/2006, you wrote:
.> >>>The trouble with most members of the federation is a complete always
.> >>>stubborn resistance to suggestions for change.  Every one on this list
.> >
.> >>>knows
.> >>>that I have questioned the fairness and management of the NFB News
.> > Line
.> >>>news
.> >>>paper Service.
.> >>>----- Original Message -----
.> >>>From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
.> >>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
.> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:30 AM
.> >>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience
.> >>>readingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
.> >>>
.> >>>
.> >>>> Did I miss something?  Considering that the only thing I have seen
.> > about
.> >>>> NFB Newsline recently was a post from the ACB leadership list
.> >>>> encouraging the ACB membership to try to stop the Federal funding
.> > for
.> >>>> NFB Newsline.
.> >>>>
.> >>>> The post made claims that any knowledgeable person would recognize
.> > as
.> >>>> untrue.  In the normal ACB fashion, the post demonstrated that if
.> > NFB is
.> >>>> creating something, the members of the ACB in general will be
.> > against
.> >>>> it.
.> >>>>
.> >>>> One last thing.  I have a question for you Tom.  Why do you bother
.> > with
.> >>>> us NFB folks?  I personally wouldn't waste my time with people whom
.> > I
.> >>>> thought were so evil and always wrong.  It just seems that you could
.> >>>> find a better use of your time doing something other than making
.> > angry
.> >>>> post to an email list made up mostly of people who have beliefs that
.> > are
.> >>>> totally different from your own.
.> >>>>
.> >>>>
.> >>>>
.> >>>> William
.> >>>>
.> >>>>
.> >>>> -----Original Message-----
.> >>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
.> > [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
.> >>>> On Behalf Of Tom Mills
.> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:15 AM
.> >>>> To: 4alabama at nfbnet.org
.> >>>> Cc: nfblaw at nfbnet.org; alabama at acb.org; acb-l at acb.org;
.> >>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org; acb-chat at acb.org
.> >>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience
.> > reading
.> >>>> thenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
.> >>>>
.> >>>> I too wonder where the blind community is when they turn their backs
.> > on
.> >>>> decency and respect for an unbiased library experience while reading
.> > the
.> >>>>
.> >>>> Alabama NFB News Line Service. The Federation is more interested in
.> >>>> promoting its blind advocacy program; like filing frivolous law
.> > suits
.> >>>> mostly
.> >>>> for the sake of publicity and all the while knowing that most
.> > government
.> >>>>
.> >>>> agencies and big business concerns will quietly settle crappy law
.> > suits
.> >>>> in
.> >>>> the legal settlement mill. Remember I am talking about the National
.> >>>> Federation of the Blind! The NFB News Line should never be used to
.> >>>> promote
.> >>>> NFB's advocacy positions and federation policies. Also, the Alabama
.> >>>> chapter
.> >>>> of the National Federation of the Blind should not be permitted to
.> > use
.> >>>> the
.> >>>> NFB News Line Service to advance the reputation of Mister J. Michael
.> >>>> Jones,
.> >>>> the Alabama affiliates state NFB president.  NFB President Doctor
.> > Marc
.> >>>> Maurer has said that the NFB News Line Service has "A Special
.> >>>> relationship
.> >>>> with the news paper industry publishers participating on News Line."
.> > Let
.> >>>> me
.> >>>> tell you something all you girls and guys, that frightens me!  I
.> > believe
.> >>>>
.> >>>> that the NFB News Line Service should be held above any and all
.> > politics
.> >>>> for
.> >>>> the sake of the blind community and most of all to provide blind
.> > news
.> >>>> paper
.> >>>> readers an honest library experience.
.> >>>>
.> >>>>
.> >>>> _______________________________________________
.> >>>> nfb-talk mailing list
.> >>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.> >>>>
.> >>>>
.> >>>> _______________________________________________
.> >>>> nfb-talk mailing list
.> >>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.> >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.> >>>>
.> >>>
.> >>>
.> >>>_______________________________________________
.> >>>nfb-talk mailing list
.> >>>nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.> >>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.> >>>
.> >>>__________ NOD32 1.1673 (20060721) Information __________
.> >>>
.> >>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
.> >>>http://www.eset.com
.> >>
.> >> _______________________________________________
.> >> nfb-talk mailing list
.> >> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.> >>
.> >
.> >
.> > _______________________________________________
.> > nfb-talk mailing list
.> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.> >
.> >
.> > _______________________________________________
.> > nfb-talk mailing list
.> > nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.> >
.>
.>
.>_______________________________________________
.>nfb-talk mailing list
.>nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk
.
.
._______________________________________________
.nfb-talk mailing list
.nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
.http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-talk