[nfb-talk] Blindpeopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper!NFBNewsLineFails that!
James Aldrich
jkaldrich at qwest.net
Sun Jul 23 12:48:48 CDT 2006
I'm not taking issue with that! Just the same, the Nfb went after
the money and got it! Therefore, they have the right to proomte
what they will.
Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:08:49 -0500
>Subject: Re:
[nfb-talk]Blindpeopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper
!NFBNewsLineFails that!
>Sir: I beg your pardon! Tens of millions dollars have been
contributed by
>many other government and private partnerships to News Line. But
even if
>every single penny were donated by the many generous federation
members I
>still would have the right to raise my concerns about the
operation and
>administration of News Line.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Aldrich" <jkaldrich at qwest.net
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:52 PM
>Subject: Re:
>[nfb-talk]Blindpeopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper
!
>NFBNewsLineFails that!
>> Tom,
>> The fact remains NFB put up the money for Newsline. It governs
the
>> policies
>> of that service. NFB will promote itself on that service since
they put
>> up
>> the money for it! That's the way it is whether you like it or
not. You
>> don't have to read those announcements if you don't wish to do
so. You
>> won't hear an NFB announcement on ACB Radio. ACB put up the
money for
>> that
>> service, therefore, it will promote itself. You may or may not
like it
>> but
>> that is the way it is!
>> Jim Aldrich
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk]
>> Blindpeopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB
NewsLineFails
>> that!
>>> Once upon a time, the American Foundation for the Blind was with
out
>>> question the richest blind organization in existence. They held
a
>>> virtual
>>> monopoly on the sale and distribution of aids and appliances for
blind
>>> people in the world. estimates of the AFB's wealth ranged
upwards of 250
>>> million 1970 dollars. Many blind leaders of that time long ago
believed
>>> that AFB gained most of their wealth by charging usury prices
for aids
>>> and
>>> appliances for sale to blind people. Also the AFB and many
other
>>> organizations working on behalf of blind people used their
considerable
>>> prestige to obstruct fund raising efforts by the National
Federation of
>>> the
>>> Blind in particular. I happen to think that the Federation's
cocky
>>> attitude
>>> toward those blind people who have learned from past experiences
the
>>> lessons
>>> of history.
>>> The only information offered by the NFB News Line Service
should be
>>> limited to those news papers in the News Line Library. Remember
that the
>>> hole concept of NFB News Line is a most rarest of privilege
granted to
>>> the
>>> blind community by many contributing news organizations in the
news paper
>>> industry. And the blind should respected as such.
>>> Because the news
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "James Aldrich" <jkaldrich at qwest.net
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind
>>> peopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News
LineFails
>>> that!
>>>>I didn't imply that free laborers in a program was a sign of
excellence!
>>>> The fact remains that the NFB had the vision for the program,
provided
>>>> the
>>>> money, no how, and got it up and running with the help of
various grants
>>>> and
>>>> entities. Until the ACB, AFB or any other organization steps
forward to
>>>> help with the program, announcements pertaining to the NFB and
its
>>>> affiliates will probably dominate the service. I am certain
other
>>>> announcements pertaining to NLS state and regional library
services are
>>>> also
>>>> on that system. Some states may have their Radio Reading
Service on the
>>>> system as well. There is talk about getting our Radio Reading
Service
>>>> on
>>>> the system. Maybe you sir might come up with some money to help
>>>> Newsline
>>>> and if it is substantial enough, you might have more of a say as
to
>>>> which
>>>> announcements appear on the service.
>>>> You certainly didn't answer my question! Why does ACB Radio
depend on
>>>> volunteers exclusively rather than paying DJ's for their work.
This
>>>> could
>>>> develop into a nice opportunity for someone and it could go on a
resume.
>>>> Of
>>>> course, it is rare that volunteering doesn't always mean much on
a
>>>> resume.
>>>> It depends on the job being sought I suppose. I think people
should be
>>>> paid
>>>> for their labors if they are good enough! I really don't think
my
>>>> question
>>>> is out of line either!
>>>> If all I read is outbursts from you, I would say you aren't
worth my
>>>> time
>>>> to
>>>> attempt rational discussion. For now, I'll leave it at that!
>>>> Jim Aldrich
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people
>>>> deservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line
Fails that!
>>>>> For goodness sake since when did the members of the National
Federation
>>>>> of
>>>>> the Blind begin to use your rival blind group the American
Council of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Blind as a standard of comparison and excellence? The NFB has
not
>>>>> proven
>>>>> itself worthy to be the sole organization in the world I know of
that
>>>>> Distributes over two hundred main stream daily and weekly news
papers.
>>>>> With
>>>>> that responsibility comes an enormous need remain above any
suspicion
>>>>> of
>>>>> fishing and grabbing subscribers from News Line for other
purposes. The
>>>>> National Federation has had a long history accusing other
organizations
>>>>> in
>>>>> the blind community of that! ---- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "James Aldrich" <jkaldrich at qwest.net
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve
>>>>> alibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>> I'm amazed that there should be such flack about Newsline which
is
>>>>>> providing
>>>>>> a most valuable service and Newsline is finding new ways to
>>>>>> distribute
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> newspapers on their service. Maybe I should say our service?
Nothing
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> said about ACB Radio when the "dj's" on their service aren't
being
>>>>>> paid
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> program the music which is played. I'm not saying that people
aren't
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> fun being a DJ, but there is no compensation other than one's
personal
>>>>>> satisfaction for doing what they do. That's okay I guess but
how nice
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> would be if this daily or weekly broadcasting by various
individuals
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> translate into a paying job. I've heard nothing about this!
Might
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> be a kind of scandal?
>>>>>> I figure it this way! If the NFB is sponsoring the service, it
has a
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> to promote what it will. ACB Radio does so and are they as
"wrong"
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> doing so? I doubt it! Therefore, I'd conclude that the NFB is
>>>>>> providing
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> most useful resource for us to be better participants in our
>>>>>> communities.
>>>>>> How is ACB Radio helping people be more involved with their
>>>>>> communities?
>>>>>> I'd say hats off to Newsline, a good program for all regardless
of
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> organization they have joined. If ACB put money towards
Newsline
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> available to anyone with a phone, then maybe they could promote
what
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> would wish to promote. Money talks! In contrast, people need a
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> listen to ACB Radio unless they have some kind of cell phone
>>>>>> arrangement
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> land line arrangement to access their programming. Newsline is
a
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't have a problem supporting.
>>>>>> Jim Aldrich
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>;
>>>>>> <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:28 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a
>>>>>> libraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>>> Dear Mr. Mills,
>>>>>>> "GET A LIFE."
>>>>>>> David Evans
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net
>>>>>>> To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
>>>>>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:46 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library
>>>>>>> experiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>>>> The trouble with most members of the federation is a complete
always
>>>>>>>> stubborn resistance to suggestions for change. Every one on
this
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>> that I have questioned the fairness and management of the NFB
News
>>>>>>>> Line
>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>> paper Service.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:30 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library
experience
>>>>>>>> readingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>>>>> Did I miss something? Considering that the only thing I have
seen
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> NFB Newsline recently was a post from the ACB leadership list
>>>>>>>>> encouraging the ACB membership to try to stop the Federal
funding
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> NFB Newsline.
>>>>>>>>> The post made claims that any knowledgeable person would
recognize
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> untrue. In the normal ACB fashion, the post demonstrated that
if
>>>>>>>>> NFB
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> creating something, the members of the ACB in general will be
>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> One last thing. I have a question for you Tom. Why do you
bother
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> us NFB folks? I personally wouldn't waste my time with people
whom
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> thought were so evil and always wrong. It just seems that you
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> find a better use of your time doing something other than making
>>>>>>>>> angry
>>>>>>>>> post to an email list made up mostly of people who have beliefs
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> totally different from your own.
>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Tom Mills
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:15 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 4alabama at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Cc: nfblaw at nfbnet.org; alabama at acb.org; acb-l at acb.org;
>>>>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org; acb-chat at acb.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience
>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>> thenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>>>>> I too wonder where the blind community is when they turn their
>>>>>>>>> backs
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> decency and respect for an unbiased library experience while
>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Alabama NFB News Line Service. The Federation is more
interested in
>>>>>>>>> promoting its blind advocacy program; like filing frivolous law
>>>>>>>>> suits
>>>>>>>>> mostly
>>>>>>>>> for the sake of publicity and all the while knowing that most
>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>> agencies and big business concerns will quietly settle crappy
law
>>>>>>>>> suits
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the legal settlement mill. Remember I am talking about the
National
>>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind! The NFB News Line should never be used
to
>>>>>>>>> promote
>>>>>>>>> NFB's advocacy positions and federation policies. Also, the
Alabama
>>>>>>>>> chapter
>>>>>>>>> of the National Federation of the Blind should not be permitted
to
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> NFB News Line Service to advance the reputation of Mister J.
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>> Jones,
>>>>>>>>> the Alabama affiliates state NFB president. NFB President
Doctor
>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>> Maurer has said that the NFB News Line Service has "A Special
>>>>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>>>>> with the news paper industry publishers participating on News
>>>>>>>>> Line."
>>>>>>>>> Let
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> tell you something all you girls and guys, that frightens me! I
>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that the NFB News Line Service should be held above any and all
>>>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the sake of the blind community and most of all to provide blind
>>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>> readers an honest library experience.
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