[nfb-talk] Blindpeopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB NewsLineFails that!

James Aldrich jkaldrich at qwest.net
Sat Jul 22 23:52:05 CDT 2006 

Tom,

The fact remains NFB put up the money for Newsline.  It governs the policies 
of that service.  NFB will promote itself on that service since they put up 
the money for it!  That's the way it is whether you like it or not.  You 
don't have to read those announcements if you don't wish to do so.  You 
won't hear an NFB announcement on ACB Radio.  ACB put up the money for that 
service, therefore, it will promote itself.  You may or may not like it but 
that is the way it is!

Jim Aldrich


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] 
Blindpeopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB NewsLineFails 
that!


> Once upon a time, the American Foundation for the Blind was with out
> question the richest blind organization in existence.  They held a virtual
> monopoly on the sale and distribution of aids and appliances for blind
> people in the world. estimates of the AFB's wealth ranged upwards of 250
> million 1970 dollars.  Many blind leaders of that time long ago believed
> that AFB gained most of their wealth by charging usury prices for aids and
> appliances for sale to blind people. Also the AFB and many other
> organizations working on behalf of blind people used their considerable
> prestige to obstruct fund raising efforts by the National Federation of 
> the
> Blind in particular. I happen to think that the Federation's  cocky 
> attitude
> toward those blind people who have learned from past experiences the 
> lessons
> of history.
>  The only information offered by the NFB News Line Service should be
> limited to those news papers in the News Line Library. Remember that the
> hole concept of NFB News Line is a most rarest of privilege granted to the
> blind community by many contributing news organizations in the news paper
> industry.  And the blind should respected as such.
> Because the news
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Aldrich" <jkaldrich at qwest.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind
> peopledeservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News LineFails 
> that!
>
>
>>I didn't imply that free laborers in a program was a sign of excellence!
>> The fact remains that the NFB had the vision for the program, provided 
>> the
>> money, no how, and got it up and running with the help of various grants
>> and
>> entities.  Until the ACB, AFB or any other organization steps forward to
>> help with the program, announcements pertaining to the NFB and its
>> affiliates will probably dominate the service.  I am certain other
>> announcements pertaining to NLS state and regional library services are
>> also
>> on that system.  Some states may have their Radio Reading Service on the
>> system as well.  There is talk about getting our Radio Reading Service on
>> the system.  Maybe you sir might come up with some money to help Newsline
>> and if it is substantial enough, you might have more of a say as to which
>> announcements appear on the service.
>>
>> You certainly didn't answer my question!  Why does ACB Radio depend on
>> volunteers exclusively rather than paying DJ's for their work.  This 
>> could
>> develop into a nice opportunity for someone and it could go on a resume.
>> Of
>> course, it is rare that volunteering doesn't always mean much on a 
>> resume.
>> It depends on the job being sought I suppose.  I think people should be
>> paid
>> for their labors if they are good enough!  I really don't think my
>> question
>> is out of line either!
>>
>> If all I read is outbursts from you, I would say you aren't worth my time
>> to
>> attempt rational discussion.  For now, I'll leave it at that!
>>
>> Jim Aldrich
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people
>> deservealibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>
>>
>>> For goodness sake since when did the members of the National Federation
>>> of
>>> the Blind begin to use your rival blind group the American Council of 
>>> the
>>> Blind as a standard of comparison and excellence?  The NFB has not 
>>> proven
>>> itself worthy to be the sole organization in the world I know of that
>>> Distributes over two hundred main stream daily and weekly news papers.
>>> With
>>> that responsibility comes an enormous need remain above any suspicion of
>>> fishing and grabbing subscribers from News Line for other purposes. The
>>> National Federation has had a long history accusing other organizations
>>> in
>>> the blind community of that!    ---- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "James Aldrich" <jkaldrich at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve
>>> alibraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm amazed that there should be such flack about Newsline which is
>>>> providing
>>>> a most valuable service and Newsline  is finding new ways to distribute
>>>> the
>>>> newspapers on their service.  Maybe I should say our service?  Nothing
>>>> is
>>>> said about ACB Radio when the "dj's" on their service aren't being paid
>>>> to
>>>> program the music which is played.  I'm not saying that people aren't
>>>> having
>>>> fun being a DJ, but there is no compensation other than one's personal
>>>> satisfaction for doing what they do.  That's okay I guess but how nice
>>>> it
>>>> would be if this daily or weekly broadcasting by various individuals
>>>> could
>>>> translate into a paying job.  I've heard nothing about this!  Might not
>>>> that
>>>> be a kind of scandal?
>>>>
>>>> I figure it this way!  If the NFB is sponsoring the service, it has a
>>>> right
>>>> to promote what it will.  ACB Radio does so and are they as "wrong" for
>>>> doing so?  I doubt it!  Therefore, I'd conclude that the NFB is
>>>> providing
>>>> a
>>>> most useful resource for us to be better participants in our
>>>> communities.
>>>> How is ACB Radio helping people be more involved with their 
>>>> communities?
>>>> I'd say hats off to Newsline, a good program for all regardless of 
>>>> which
>>>> organization they have joined.  If ACB put money towards Newsline which
>>>> is
>>>> available to anyone with a phone, then maybe they could promote what
>>>> they
>>>> would wish to promote.  Money talks!  In contrast, people need a
>>>> computer
>>>> to
>>>> listen to ACB Radio unless they have some kind of cell phone 
>>>> arrangement
>>>> or
>>>> land line arrangement to access their programming.  Newsline is a
>>>> program
>>>> I
>>>> don't have a problem supporting.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Aldrich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>;
>>>> <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a
>>>> libraryexperiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Mills,
>>>>> "GET A LIFE."
>>>>>
>>>>> David Evans
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tom Mills" <tmills79 at bellsouth.net>
>>>>> To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
>>>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:46 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library
>>>>> experiencereadingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The trouble with most members of the federation is a complete always
>>>>>> stubborn resistance to suggestions for change.  Every one on this 
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> knows
>>>>>> that I have questioned the fairness and management of the NFB News
>>>>>> Line
>>>>>> news
>>>>>> paper Service.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:30 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience
>>>>>> readingthenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did I miss something?  Considering that the only thing I have seen
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> NFB Newsline recently was a post from the ACB leadership list
>>>>>>> encouraging the ACB membership to try to stop the Federal funding 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> NFB Newsline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The post made claims that any knowledgeable person would recognize 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> untrue.  In the normal ACB fashion, the post demonstrated that if 
>>>>>>> NFB
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> creating something, the members of the ACB in general will be 
>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One last thing.  I have a question for you Tom.  Why do you bother
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> us NFB folks?  I personally wouldn't waste my time with people whom 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> thought were so evil and always wrong.  It just seems that you could
>>>>>>> find a better use of your time doing something other than making
>>>>>>> angry
>>>>>>> post to an email list made up mostly of people who have beliefs that
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> totally different from your own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Tom Mills
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:15 AM
>>>>>>> To: 4alabama at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Cc: nfblaw at nfbnet.org; alabama at acb.org; acb-l at acb.org;
>>>>>>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org; acb-chat at acb.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Blind people deserve a library experience 
>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>> thenewspaper! NFB News Line Fails that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I too wonder where the blind community is when they turn their backs
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> decency and respect for an unbiased library experience while reading
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alabama NFB News Line Service. The Federation is more interested in
>>>>>>> promoting its blind advocacy program; like filing frivolous law 
>>>>>>> suits
>>>>>>> mostly
>>>>>>> for the sake of publicity and all the while knowing that most
>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> agencies and big business concerns will quietly settle crappy law
>>>>>>> suits
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the legal settlement mill. Remember I am talking about the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind! The NFB News Line should never be used to
>>>>>>> promote
>>>>>>> NFB's advocacy positions and federation policies. Also, the Alabama
>>>>>>> chapter
>>>>>>> of the National Federation of the Blind should not be permitted to
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> NFB News Line Service to advance the reputation of Mister J. Michael
>>>>>>> Jones,
>>>>>>> the Alabama affiliates state NFB president.  NFB President Doctor
>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>> Maurer has said that the NFB News Line Service has "A Special
>>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>>> with the news paper industry publishers participating on News Line."
>>>>>>> Let
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> tell you something all you girls and guys, that frightens me!  I
>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that the NFB News Line Service should be held above any and all
>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the sake of the blind community and most of all to provide blind 
>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>> readers an honest library experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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