[nfb-talk] Fw: [Nfbf-l] FW: interesting editorial BY NFBonrecentUS currency ruling

Wed Dec 20 15:58:33 CST 2006

John:

If there is a back lash it won't be from the guy operating the cash 
register, but from the guy who owns the cash register.  And ... after 
all he or she is the one who does the hiring, not the cashier.

Dave

At 03:14 PM 12/20/2006, you wrote:
>Yes, everyone makes mistakes. That's why money should be made so blind
>people can identify it. So that you and I can make sure the cab driver gave
>us correct change before we exit the cab.
>
>You say you think I'm making a mountain out of a mole-hill but the President
>of the NFB saw fit to write an editorial about it.  I'm merely responding to
>what he said.
>
>PS: I just came back from lunch. The cashier mentioned he'd heard about  the
>possibility that they'd change the bills so blind people could identify
>them. I asked if he was worried about them being difficult to handle. Not at
>all, he said. In fact, he was quite enthusiastic about it. His exact words
>were, "It should have been done a long time ago."
>
>Backlash? What backlash?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: [Nfbf-l] FW: interesting editorial BY
>NFBonrecentUS currencyruling
>
>
> > Everyone, cashier or not, makes mistakes, and it isn't as prevalent as you
> > would seem to think.  I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill,
> > personally.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alan Wheeler
> > awheeler at neb.rr.com or alan_wheeler at neb.rr.com
> > redwheel1 on skype
> > http://alan-wheeler.blogspot.com/
> > "Tell the people the truth and the country will be free"
> >  --Abraham Lincoln
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of John Heim
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:12 PM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: [Nfbf-l] FW: interesting editorial BY NFB
> > onrecentUS currencyruling
> >
> > I don't know... This just doesn't seem right to me.
> >
> > First of all, cashiers make mistakes all the time. And while it may be
> > fairly uncommon for cashiers to deliberately take advantage of blind
> > people,
> > these events are especially egregious.  It doesn't seem right to me for
> > the
> > NFB to officially take the stance that we blind people should remain
> > defenseless against this kind of thing.  I don't think it's right to
> > describe that as a mere inconvenience.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
> > To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:33 AM
> > Subject: [nfb-talk] Fw: [Nfbf-l] FW: interesting editorial BY NFB on
> > recentUS currencyruling
> >
> >
> >> Thought this might be of interest.
> >>
> >> Sherri
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gloria Hicks" <glorianfb at irescue-tax.com>
> >> To: <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:33 AM
> >> Subject: [Nfbf-l] FW: interesting editorial BY NFB on recent US
> >> currencyruling
> >>
> >>
> >>>From Gloria Hicks,
> >>
> >>  _____
> >>
> >> From: Jane Johnson [mailto:JJohnson at faast.org]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:37 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> The recent ruling that the US should alter its currency so that the
> >> different denominations of dollars are distinguishable by touch has
> >> sparked debate within the blind community. The lawsuit was filed by
> >> the American Council of the Blind. The ruling has since been appealed
> >> by the U.S. Dept.
> >> of the Treasury, with the support of the National Federation of the
> >> Blind.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The editorial below appeared in today's New York Times.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Florida Alliance for Assistive Services and Technology Enhancing Lives
> >> Through Assistive Services and Technology Jane Johnson Executive
> >> Director
> >> 325 John Knox Road
> >> Building 400, Suite 402
> >> Tallahassee, FL 32303
> >> jjohnson at faast.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> December 18, 2006
> >>
> >> Op-Ed Contributor
> >>
> >>
> >> The Midas Touch
> >>
> >>
> >> By MARC MAURER
> >>
> >> IN a ruling in a lawsuit last month, Judge James Robertson of Federal
> >> District Court said that United States currency discriminates against
> >> blind people because bills are all the same size and cannot be
> >> distinguished by touch. His decision was applauded by some advocates
> >> for the blind, including the American Council of the Blind, which
> >> brought the lawsuit. But as president of the National Federation of
> >> the Blind, the nation's oldest and largest organization of the blind,
> >> I believe that Judge Robertson's ruling is wrong.
> >>
> >> Discrimination occurs when the blind are barred from enjoying
> >> benefits, goods or services. This definition of discrimination is what
> >> most people understand the word to mean. If a landlord refuses to rent
> >> an apartment to someone because of race, color, creed or disability,
> >> then discrimination occurs. Sometimes people with disabilities are
> >> barred from certain facilities or services because of the way they are
> >> designed. A person in a wheelchair cannot climb the steps of a public
> >> building; if the building does not have a wheelchair ramp, that person
> >> is prevented from entering it. In another example, my group is suing
> >> the Target Corporation because the company's Web site doesn't
> >> accommodate the special text-reading software that the blind use to
> >> surf the Internet. In both cases, a person with a disability is kept
> >> out of a public place or denied use of a service, just as
> >> African-Americans were not welcome at whites-only lunch counters.
> >>
> >> But while blind people cannot identify paper currency by touch, that
> >> does not prevent us from spending money. When we hand merchants our
> >> money, they take it and provide us with the goods or services we have
> >> paid for, no questions asked. People with whom we transact business
> >> provide us with correct change if needed, and we then organize the
> >> money in a manner that allows us to identify it in the future. We
> >> transact business in this way every day.
> >>
> >> There is no evidence that the blind are shortchanged more often than
> >> the sighted; if a question does arise about a particular transaction,
> >> it is the responsibility of the blind person to sort out the matter.
> >> Identifying money by feel, as the blind are often able to do in many
> >> other countries, may be more convenient, but inconvenience is not the
> >> same thing as discrimination.
> >>
> >> While it is crucial that minorities have a voice in society, it is
> >> also the responsibility of every minority group to use that voice
> >> wisely and not to cry "discrimination" when no discrimination has
> >> occurred. The blind of America will fight discrimination wherever we
> >> find it, but we achieve nothing by falsely portraying ourselves as
> >> victims and engaging in frivolous litigation.
> >>
> >> Marc Maurer is the president of the National Federation of the Blind.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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