[nfb-talk] Cash

[David Andrews]

John:

You are right in the things you say below.  However, you make it 
sound like all money is thrust upon you with no opportunity for 
determining what it is.  For me, at least, this just isn't the 
case.  Most cahs transactions take place in public, with other people 
watching.  Most clerks and the limke presort the money, and count it 
out to you.  If they don't you can and should ask the too.  It is in 
their interest, as well as yours.

With some planning and forethought a blind person can handle money 
throughout the day.  You sound like a successful person, buy a money 
identifier (not from the NFB of course,) and identify any bills you 
loose track of during the day when you get back to your hotel at night.

Dave

At 08:03 AM 12/14/2006, you wrote:
>I know all that. I know how to sort money. But stuff happens.
>
>have you ever *really* been on a business trip? What happened in the case I
>was telling you about was that I ended up staying in New Yourk a week longer
>than I expected. My boss called me and sent me to a second job since I was
>already out there.  I expected to be there for 4 days and ended up staying
>about 10.
>
>Come on, people! This is what real life is like. This is what sighted people
>do every single day. This is how you get to be a big shot. When the boss
>calls, you step up to the plate.
>
>Originally, I had trouble convincing my boss that she should send me out on
>these jobs just like anybody else. But by delivering time after time, I got
>to the point where she never gave it a second thought.  The NFB is making it
>harder for people like me to deliver in the clutch.
>
>I'm not sure you folks realize how important this is. If you're out in the
>real world competing with other people you can't be screwing up.  A
>promotion may depend on your ability to make that flight. You miss it, and
>that will absolutely give the impression that you're a helpless blind
>person.
>
>If you're with a customer and they see you asking the street vendor to sort
>your money, that gives the impression that you're a helpless blind person.
>Being able to throw $5 at the street vendor for a hotdog gives the
>impression that you're just like anybody else.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Cash
>
>
> > John Heim;
> > Do you sourt your money.  That issue about the hotdog and ski cap you
> > could have solved by carrying smaller bills.  When going on a trip you
> > need to plan for things like that.  I limit my bills and use 1,5,10 and
> > 20.  I use different sections for each kind of bill.  I usually fold
> > them also.  When going on a trip like that you need some ones, some
> > fives and what ever else you want to use.  This way you will not have to
> > pull out a large bill for a small purchase and will not get a lump of
> > cash that you can not identify.
> > Also, in some cases, you can request specific bills as your change.
> >
> > Terry Powers
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Heim [mailto:jheim at math.wisc.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:28 AM
> > To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Cash
> >
> >
> >> On the other hand, with respect to cash transactions, the blind handle
> >
> >> their
> >> currency and have always done so with very little difficulty. So we of
> > NFB
> >
> > That is simply not true. Or at least it's no more true than it is for
> > the
> > web.  I browse the web every single day. I make my living using the web.
> >
> > In fact, I need help handling money far, far more often than I need help
> >
> > with web pages. EVERY single transaction requires me to get help with my
> >
> > cash. Every single one.  I almost never need help with the web. In fact,
> > I
> > am more often helping people than the other way around .
> >
> > Also, there is an apparent conflict of interest here. The NFB is now
> > selling
> > the very gismos that they claim blind people can use to sort their
> > money.
> > That may not be the reason they took their stance but it looks bad.
> >
> > Another thing that makes no sense is the aargument that changing the
> > money
> > will make it harder for blind people to get jobs because it gives people
> > the
> > idea that blind people can't handle money. But you can't give people an
> > idea
> > they already have. It's ridiculous to say that it will be harder for
> > blind
> > people to get jobs if the money is changed. Try getting a job handling
> > money
> > today. What do you think your odds are. About zero. Changing the money
> > might
> > not improve the odds much but it sure ain't gonna hurt.
> >
> > Changing the money will make it far, far easier for blind people to do
> > their
> > jobs. Any job involving travel will be made far easier. I was in
> > Brooklyn
> > once. I was running late so I bought a hotdog from a street vendor,
> > jumped
> > in a cab to the airport, tipped a skycap  who helped me get to the gate.
> > All
> > those transactions were conducted in cash. I want to be able to reach
> > into
> > my pocket and pull out the $5 that the cabbie gave me and hand it to the
> >
> > skycap. You want to talk about making a bad impression, try asking a
> > skycap
> > to sort your money so you can figure out his tip. That looks pathetic.
> >
> > When I'm handed a wad of bills after  buying a beer at a football game,
> > I
> > want to be able to count it MYSELF and say, "Um, pardon me, I think you
> > made
> > a mistake here." How in the world can the NFB stand in the way of that?
> >
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