[nfb-talk] Cash

[Steve Jacobson]

John,

If one looks at both of these issues as civil rights issues, you are right, the positions are contradictory.  Any change that we push for, whether it be web access or 
money, does carry with it possible negative effects.  That is precisely why we need to prioritize and not just push for whatever issue seems appropriate this month.

The difference is that I believe that it is a questionable position to take that we have a right to a given accommodation as oppose to a need for it that benefits both 
society and blind people.  If we see such issues as needs, then the issue of prioritization is relevant and one is not going to favor all "need" issues with equal 
emphasis.  I'm not sure if you are ignoring this difference or if you are simply too angry for rational discussion.  To indicate in a discussion that one side or the other is 
" . . .  just wrong. That's all there is to it." indicates an unwillingness on your part to discuss this seriously.

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:49:25 -0600, John Heim wrote:

>Again, in that case, the lawsuit against Target gives the impression that 
>the blind aren't getting along just fine now.

>Look, Mike, there is just no way to justify these 2 positions. I make my 
>living on the web. I write web pages, I find technical information on the 
>web. If asking the government to change the money is harmful, wouldn't the 
>lawsuit against Target give the impression that blindpeople can't browse the 
>web?

>If I have to go into a job interview, wouldn't the employer think there are 
>problems with the blind browsing the web if he/she had heard about the 
>Target suit?

>The NFB is just wrong. That's all there is to it.

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Cash


>>I do not say that the lawsuit makes the blind look helpless. But it *does*
>> give the impression that the blind aren't getting along just fine now.
>> Otherwise, the lawsuit is frivpolous.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "MARSHA R WALLEN" <robynwallen at juno.com>
>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Cash
>>
>>
>>> Steve you and I have had a discussion on this issue for awhile.  i do not
>>> think we are as far apart as it might seem.  Here is my biggest issue
>>> with the whole thing the way NFB is promoting this entire thing.  I grant
>>> you that there are different priorities but I do not feel that saying
>>> accessable currency makes the blind look helpless or incompetent in any
>>> way is a fair comment.  It is okay to have differing views on this issue
>>> and differing priorities but to say that accessable currency would make
>>> us look helpless makes no sense and seems more like a petty response to
>>> suit filed by ACB.  The logic is just not there.  Ok other people may
>>> have other priorites but that does not mean that the big guns of debate
>>> have to come out.  To me that stance that NFB is taking is similar to
>>> when politicians dig up dirt on each other just to make themselves look
>>> better.  I am all for any organization standing behind their own beliefs
>>> but belittling another groups positon is not truly standing up for ones
>>> convictions.
>>>
>>> Robyn
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