[nfb-talk] What Some People Think About NFB:

Peter Donahue pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Dec 5 22:03:00 CST 2006


Hello Ken and listers,

And you're one of them.

Peter Donahue


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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: [nfb-talk] What Some People Think About NFB:


I have been at least a little bit behind for quite some time now and am
endeavoring to get up to speed. Jim B said he thought that Kevin had a lot
of ambition. You betcha. Kevin really doesn't have much choice at this time,
it would appear. The question that still baffles me is how the courts can
attach all but a few dollars of a person's check each month if that's all
the person has on which to support himself. As I remember it from working
collections for a short time at the i r s, even if a taxpayer's record still
showed a large balance due that could otherwise be collectible, the feds
couldn't do anything if the individual had only social security or public
assistance as income. As I remember from about a year ago, Kevin did tell us
that he had less than a year to find a fulltime job in order to be able to
pay child support. That could be a tall order for any court to give a blind
person, despite the fact that, nowadays, courts are really cracking down on
those responsible for
 alimony and child support payments. Once upon a time, unless the person
with custody exhausted him or herself, the other party often got off
virtually scot free, with less than a slap on the wrist.

Regarding the identification of paper money, as has already been said out
here, yes, there are and have been for quite some time, expensive devices
available to allow us to determine a bill's denomination. Also, yes, when
they re-do the bills, it all but renders the present note tellers obsolete.
This isn't the most appropriate place to say this, but, as I always do, I'll
get it said for the list. When are these dad gum yahoos at 1800 Johnson
Street going to get off their dead asses and start making it better for the
blind of America than just themselves? These are the bozos that won't
communicate with their fellow blind in braille, they don't like DVS, they
despise both detectable warnings on train platforms and audible traffic
signals, and they generally don't like guide dogs. I'd personally rather
have a horse than a dog, and on this wise, I do have to hand it to the
federation when they say that a horse wouldn't be a practical service animal
in the work place, since, for one
 thing, it can't hold its waste products nearly as long as a dog typically
can. The best thing to come out of the NFB is without question, Newsline. If
your local radio reading service does offer over the phone information on
demand, it can't even come close to what can be accessed via Newsline, even
though it may provide limited access to papers and other materials not
available through Newsline. My only beef with them about Newsline is that if
they're so worried about subscribers continuing to use the 8 8 8 number,
they ought to revert back to local access numbers as they once had. Indeed,
the 8 8 8, as I understand it, no longer works in some states. For whatever
it's worth, while I understand that at least some nations have attempted to
make their paper notes blind friendly, I have never checked any of them out.
I don't have the brains to mastermind the solution, but I do know that
nobody, not even those in the Federation, have any problem with the fact
that coins have always
 been, and doubtless always will be, tactilely discernible. Some on the list
have suggested that they haven't had a problem with their paper money. They
probably haven't been blind vendors. That's the only time I have had
trouble. Mike M once told me, and possibly others on this list that someone
who was at his apartment found some of his money and cleverly exchanged the
larger bills for an equal number of ones, and he had no way of knowing it
until he tried to spend or deposit them. Folding bills differently to keep
track of them, as all of us have been doing forever, still initially depends
on trustworthy sighted assistance, which isn't always readily available,
moreover, the process can be cumbersome. The sighted would be the first to
have a cow if suddenly, the Treasury told the mint to redesign all of the
coins to be the same size. Of course, if that occurred, a certain clique in
Baltimore would turn the other way, and giggle at their fellow blind, Ha Ha
Ha! We gotcha now! Get
 real! This is a sighted world, and if you wanna find acceptance, start
living like sighted people live!

Oh, that question, mentioned in my subject line. Jim B, where in the cathair
did you hear Reverend Ike on the radio recently? I know that he's still
around, but I haven't bumped into him in nigh on 20 years. I initially heard
him in the 60's and 70's on x e r f, then in the 80's on WLAC in Nashville
and W A O K in Atlanta. Doctrinally, this guy has been a wacko from the
get-ggo, but he is probably one of the foun-dationalists when it comes to
the name it and claim it theology, so eagerly and readily espoused in modern
times by such mega ministers as Joel Osteen, Oral and Richard Roberts, Benny
Hinn, Kenneth Hagen and Kenneth Copeland.


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