[nfb-talk] Accessible forms

Mon Aug 14 12:21:46 CDT 2006

Good one Heather!
That is just what I have been trying to get across since last week.  
You can only lead a horse to water, but you can not make him drink.  

We can lead him to the imfo but it looks like he is to bullheaded to
catch on that he can do something for himself.
Terry Powers

-----Original Message-----
From: H. Field [mailto:missheather at comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:11 AM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: [nfb-talk] Accessible forms

Joe, 
I have a genuine question for you.
If it is available online and you have screen-reading software, then it
is already accessible. Why are you acting like it is someone else's
responsibility to braille something for you and send it to you? 
As I see it, there is a difference between saying someone should make
something accessible and saying that they should braille it out and send
it to you. Why is it anyone's responsibility to braille something out
and send it to you if it is available online for you to download and
read with your screen-reading software?
Please clarify this point for me.
As to your question regarding the KNFB reader, yes, it can read print
forms very well.

Regards,

Heather Field
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz" <michiganadapt at peoplepc.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] oops only the blind don't know

Again did you se it?

Ain't a matter if they are accessible to the sighted, which they are.
Its a 
matter that they are made accessible to those of us who happen to be
blind.

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] oops only the blind don't know

>
> Joe,
>
> Your so smart, why don't you go and get it where everyone else gets
it.
>>From the IRS web site.
> 990 forms are available over the internet for all non-profits.
> I sat in a bank president's office, who was also the head of a family
> foundation, where I was seeking a grant for my chapter, and he looked
up
> everything on line.
> He saw our 501-(C)(3), our 990 form and our tax exemption status.
> If he can find it, then you can too.
> Don't ask us to load the gun your trying to shoot us with.
> Go bury yourself with some flower seeds.  that way something good will

> come
> from you.
>
> David Evans
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "joe harcz" <michiganadapt at peoplepc.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] oops only the blind don't know
>
>
>> OK I'll bite how does a body get an organization to make its lawfully
>> requested information accessible including IRS Forms 990? Note I
asked
>> this
>> of the federally funded organization In the case the NFB.
>>
>> Cannot they do it with all of its resources and expertise?
>>
>> Wouldn't it be a positive message for NFB to do this simple thing if
you
>> truly consider positive actions over positive talk?
>>
>> Ditto, BTW goes to ACB.
>>
>> How hard is it for either group that operpetedly fights for our
rights 
>> and
>> receives funding for same to comply with its own standards of
compliance?
>>
>> So rather than character assassination or other diversions wouldn't
it be
>> great if say NFB simply remitted the requested information in
accessible
>> format as requested?
>>
>> Wouldn't that be a positive thing?
>>
>> Wow, now that I'm thinking of it wouldn't that be  a great example
for 
>> the
>> rest of the world and indeed the rest of the blindness community?
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein at verizon.net>
>> To: <cedarwoman1965 at neb.rr.com>; <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] oops only the blind don't know
>>
>>
>>> Hi Bonnie!
>>> I wish we could talk about more productive topics. For example: I am
>>> having some difficulty doing research. I have a Pac Mate and some
times
>>> when I am on the internet I get kicked back to the today screen.
>>>
>>> I also enjoy learning what people know about the technology and how
to
>>> use
>>> it. We all have valuable information that we can share.
>>>
>>> Twenty-some years ago this technology, Web Braille, Blind friendly
>>> Computers and a host of other useful tools were not available. The
>>> younger
>>> generation has the world in their hands so to speak. It is exciting
to
>>> observe. Who knows maybe someday we will have a blind Einstein.
>>>
>>> Lets think on the positive.
>>>
>>> Smile
>>> Hope
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> .From: "Bonnie Ainsworth"<cedarwoman1965 at neb.rr.com>
>>> .Sent: 8/10/06 1:58:09 PM
>>> .To: "NFB Talk Mailing List"<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] oops only the blind don't know
>>> .
>>> .Hope,
>>> .
>>> .Don't pay him any mind.  He's only here to stir up the pot.  You
can
>>> block
>>> .him.  Don't give him the satisfaction of getting you worked up. 
>>> *SMILE*
>>> .
>>> .----- Original Message ----- 
>>> .From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein at verizon.net>
>>> .To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> .Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:46 PM
>>> .Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] oops only the blind don't know
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .This is getting to be to much. You are harassing us and you need to
>>> stop!
>>> .
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