[nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB

joe harcz michiganadapt at peoplepc.com
Thu Aug 10 12:10:41 CDT 2006


"They cannot feed us upon a silver platter" you said.

Lord knows why not for "they" receive millions from the federal taxpayer and 
millions more from "charitable contributors".And thus likely eat upon silver 
platters themselves!

But we average blinks don't have the ready access to the sighted guides and 
readers that our elites have.

Wonder why that is by the way? Wonder why Jernigan and Maurer have sighted 
guides and readers and then don't remit information in accessible format 
although they are funded and obligated to do so?

Can't you figure out what is wrong with that picture?

Now go ahead and Braille something in a vacuum. In other words Braille me a 
copy of anything that isn't at first instance in an accessible format 
without sighted assistance.

In short Braille me the NFB forms 990 that I requested.

And no peeking please or sighted assistance!

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB


> Joe;
> I was talking about teaching children and the newly blind how to read
> Braille.  Hope told you where you could find the forms.  If you have the
> right equipment and the knowledge to do so, Braille them yourself.  Why
> be so dependent on others.
> Even National Braille Press might Braille them for you for a small fee.
> Do it with Jaws or emboss it yourself.
> Where there is a will, there is a way.
> NFB has done wonders for us.  They can not fead us on a silver platter.
> Think about it.
>
> Terry Powers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joe harcz [mailto:michiganadapt at peoplepc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:31 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>
> OK then if NFB promotes Braille why doesn't it send out requested
> information in Braille? I'll take for example the IRS Forms 990 in
> Braille.
> But they weren't sent to me in this manner. Rather they were sent in
> print
> and belatedly at that. Moreover, the AAF and Tenbroek 990s weren't sent
> in
> any format whatsoever.
>
> And you've now seen the lawful requests for them.
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <powerst at dcpcepn.nci.nih.gov>
> To: <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>
>
>> Good one William;
>> We need to stand on our own two feet and defend our rights.  I can not
>> believe any blind person would not promote Braille, independence, the
>> Lewis Braille Coin...  I just know it is true.  There are some very
> nice
>> ACB members out there but if I had not left the ACB, when I came back
>> from AEB in Little Rock, and Joined the NFB, I would not have my job
>> today.  They have helped me to build my comfidence and independence.
> I
>> was overprotected as a child.  I thank the NFB for helping me succeed
> in
>> the working world.  Now I am out there mentoring others!
>>
>> Terry Powers
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wm. Ritchhart [mailto:william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:07 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>>
>> Marsha,
>>
>> I am afraid I have to disagree with you.  The challenges of today are
> no
>> grater than the challenges of the 1950's - 1970's.  ACB was of no
>> positive benefit to the blind then and nothing has changed.  The NFB
> can
>> do more good for the blind by ignoring the ACB and doing what it
>> believes best.
>>
>> That is how all that has been achieved for the blind has been
>> accomplished.  ACB is no different today in it's philosophy and
> actions
>> then it was 40 years ago.  They contribute very little of positive
> value
>> and should be generally ignored.
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Marsha
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:24 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] ACB members in NFB
>>
>>  It seems to me that we have many challenges on all sides confronting
>> us
>> now and in the near future.  The entire framework of blind services
>> could be
>> changing.  There are threats to Randolph-Sheppard, threats to any
> rehab
>> programs.  The idea of privatization of services could take any
>> opportunity
>> for choice away from us.  Perhaps instead of us taking shots at the
> ACB,
>> we
>> should see how many things we might have in common.  Although our
>> philosophies toward blindness may be different, totally opposite some
>> say,
>> we had better work together as much as possible or we could lose the
>> headway
>> we have made.  Although we may not want to admit it, ACB does some
> good
>> things.  They are not perfectly bad and we are not perfectly good.  If
>> people can conduct themselves in a respectful manner, we should listen
>> to
>> what they have to say no matter where they are coming from.  The
> future
>> has
>> many potential threats.  We must find the best ways to deal with them.
>> We
>> are, after all, a minority in a minority.  It will not be possible to
>> survive unless we do some serious thinking.
>>
>> Marsha Anderson
>>
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